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Kham-Ryn Kurios
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« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2016, 07:07:43 PM »

Well, Suicide Squad definitely captured the look and feel of the comic book in the way that only a SS movie could have, but I can imagine that not connecting well with general audiences; the same goes for the humor employed. There is actually quite a bit of humor in the movie, but I think some would consider it "dark comedy", which my wife and I enjoyed immensely.

It doesn't top my list of favorite DC movies, but it is a SOLID addition to their library.

If any of you go to see it, I sincerely hope that you enjoy yourselves.  Smiley
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« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2016, 07:49:45 PM »

I was definitively desappointed by this movie .... Next !!!!
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« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2016, 10:48:45 PM »

I was definitively desappointed by this movie .... Next !!!!

Care to elaborate?

I'd like to compare what I saw, to what you saw.


Scratch that, It's probably better that we don't discuss the details of the movie here.
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« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2016, 07:43:53 AM »

Care to elaborate?

I'd like to compare what I saw, to what you saw.


Scratch that, It's probably better that we don't discuss the details of the movie here.

No details Wink

It is a general feelings:

Warner always make great teaser ... so, as a DCU big BIG fan, i am always exited ... and, unfortunately, i am almost always disappointed ...

All the last movies including Dark Knight Rises have disappointed me (but The Dark Knight was a very great movie) ... and i am afraid about WW and JLA ...

Why i am disappointed? Generally because the story or some part of the scenario ...
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« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2016, 03:44:41 PM »

I find it's generally best to go into these movies with little to no expectations.  When I saw Man of Steel the first time, my appreciation of the film was ruined by my own expectations from years of reading Superman comics and watching various live action and animated versions of Superman.  However, I watched it again not long ago and I left my expectations at the door.  I found it to be a much more enjoyable film the second time, and I was able to see how a different director's version of Superman was still good to watch.  And, that's what you get when you watch one of these films, you get someone's idea of how it should be done.  If you go to watch the movie expecting it to be a certain way, you'll almost always be disappointed, unless the director's vision matches yours.  Though, sometimes, studios make boneheaded choices to cut a movie down, ensuring that you're not even watching the director's vision.  But, that's a whole other issue.
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« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2016, 04:24:16 PM »

If I didn't go into a movie a little excited or with the bare minimum of expectation that it will be entertaining, then I would probably stop watching movies altogether. However, it is hard sometimes to keep expectations low when a comic character that I have loved since I was 4 years old is made into a movie. And then you find out who is writing and directing the movie. And then you hear the casting news. And then you see a trailer.

Unless you are a general movie goer who only knows when new movies are coming out when the first trailer hits (which is impossible these days unless you have no online media presence whatsoever) then it is hard to avoid any fore-knowlegde of movies coming out. I do think some comic book fans do need a time out on he naughty step before watching a movie because they have built it up so much in their minds. And if the movie is bad, we should always remember that making a great movie is hard. Think about how many movies are released every year. What percentage are good? What percentage are great? What percentage will have an effect on the industry/audiences and go on to be considered a classic?

That being said, from what I've heard about Suicide Squad BTS is that there was a lot of meddling by studio executives. This is nothing new in Hollywood. However, my only complaint about execs meddling is when they do it. If they have input/notes to give during the writing/storyboarding/pre-production phase, then great. THAT is the time to ensure the director you have hired is going to make a product you are happy with. However, once filming has begun, LEAVE THE DIRECTOR ALONE. It's unfair to go to him after he has started filming and move the goalposts.

With all this in mind, I am still interested to see the movie and will give it a chance like I did with Ghostbusters, Fantastic Four, BvS and every other movie I have seen that I heard wasn't good before I saw it.

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« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2016, 04:41:54 PM »

If I didn't go into a movie a little excited or with the bare minimum of expectation that it will be entertaining, then I would probably stop watching movies altogether. However, it is hard sometimes to keep expectations low when a comic character that I have loved since I was 4 years old is made into a movie. And then you find out who is writing and directing the movie. And then you hear the casting news. And then you see a trailer.

Well, obviously you're going to go to a movie expecting to enjoy it, or at least hoping to. You don't go spend money on a movie thinking it's going to be a crap fest, otherwise why bother?

What I mean by keeping expectations low is that some people apparently expect movie makers to follow what is in their head as far as what should or shouldn't be done with the story and characters.  If you go in expecting a director to have made the exact same choices you'd have made, it just won't work.  However, that seems to be what some people expect.  They think this director who has never met them and did things as he/she saw fit should have done this or that, just because the viewer wants it.  Then the viewer gets unhappy, sometimes even mad because the movie didn't follow the script in their head.  Those are unrealistic expectations, in my opinion.  If a movie is bad because it's poorly written, poorly acted and/or the studio went in and messed it all up, then that's one thing.  If you are butthurt because the directors didn't do what you wanted them to do, then yeah you should probably just stop watching these movies.  Sorry if that seems harsh, but that's reality.

With Suicide Squad, I've seen the trailers and I personally don't get the hype.  It just doesn't look good to me.  Though, sometimes, I will watch a trailer and not be impressed, only to wind up enjoying the film.  Other times, it's the opposite.  And, of course, trailers can be dead on sometimes as far as how I will or won't enjoy a film.  But, I'll see it, likely when it's on streaming or disc.  I don't need to go to a theater to see it.  However, as someone who hasn't read Suicide Squad comics, (but I am familiar with some of the characters, particularly Harley Quinn) I won't have a whole lot of expectations as far as what they should have done.  So, if I like it, it will be due to it being a good movie to me.  If not, then for the same reason.
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« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2016, 05:17:21 PM »

If you go in expecting a director to have made the exact same choices you'd have made, it just won't work.  However, that seems to be what some people expect.  They think this director who has never met them and did things as he/she saw fit should have done this or that, just because the viewer wants it.  Then the viewer gets unhappy, sometimes even mad because the movie didn't follow the script in their head.  Those are unrealistic expectations, in my opinion.

You're absolutely dead on with this. One of my biggest pet peeves is when people want a movie to go their way and then lambast it for going a different way. I think it's much more fun to see how a filmmaker interprets material rather than strictly adhering to it. For example, I love comparing Burton's Batman, to Nolan's Batman, to Snyder's Batman, or Raimi's Spider-Man, to Webb's Spider-Man, to Marvel's Spider-Man, etc. It's fascinating to see what specific aspects of a character or material are considered most important to a director, as it's a window into an individual's worldview. I love it.

With Suicide Squad, I've seen the trailers and I personally don't get the hype.  It just doesn't look good to me.  Though, sometimes, I will watch a trailer and not be impressed, only to wind up enjoying the film.  Other times, it's the opposite.  And, of course, trailers can be dead on sometimes as far as how I will or won't enjoy a film.  But, I'll see it, likely when it's on streaming or disc.  I don't need to go to a theater to see it.

Trailers are tricky. I once visited E-Film (one of the top color correction facilities in the world that also cuts together about 90% of the trailers you see in theaters) and they told me that they rarely see the directors working on trailers. It's most often the marketing team, whose goal is to just get your butt in a seat rather than give you an accurate representation of the movie. Occasionally a director will give input on trailers (like James Gunn for GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY), but it's very rare, as they're usually ridiculously busy working on the film itself.

All of this is to say that I think trailers should be thought of as their own separate work from the film. You can enjoy them and let them hype you up, but always remember that the movie itself could be completely different because different creative voices are working on it.

Personally, when it comes to film expectations, I do expect a lot, but the only reason I do that is because I want to love a movie. I don't go into any movie wanting to hate it, I just want something good. I just can't bring myself to enjoy sitting in front of a screen for two hours numbly consuming something; I need to have it cause some kind of reaction in me.

Now, even with my high expectations, I am pretty lenient. If a film is terrible but has one masterful performance from an actor I will recommend it for that reason, or if the plot is stupid but the action scenes are impeccable I will likewise recommend it for those. A good example of this is FURIOUS 7, which is a very dumb movie, but the car chase on the mountain is straight up one of the best action sequences of last year and should be studied in film schools, plus the sendoff for Brian at the end is gloriously sentimental. Those two things alone make me love that movie and, as a result, make it worth recommending.

While I do expect a lot, I also understand that filmmaking is incredibly complicated, so as long as a movie does one thing really well I recommend it. However, I do like it when something great comes along, so I search for those movies every year and, whenever I find one, I talk about it until people get sick of me.  Cheesy

That's my approach to movie watching in a nutshell. I'll never not watch something, and I always enjoy going to the theater so much that even if something is terrible I could have fun (at home I'm a bit grumpier), but I do hope to find some form of greatness in everything I see.
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