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Author Topic: New Sabers: Butcher & Savior  (Read 187913 times)
Lady Revan
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« Reply #375 on: October 27, 2018, 05:21:57 PM »

I like the Butcher with the Crimson Scorpion pommel, looks really good
Would probably look sweet with red andonized butcher too


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« Reply #376 on: October 27, 2018, 05:53:09 PM »

I'd like to see a butcher with a fulcrum or lost grey pommel. I think that would look pretty cool.
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« Reply #377 on: October 27, 2018, 06:05:27 PM »

I'd like to see a butcher with a fulcrum or lost grey pommel. I think that would look pretty cool.

This, another vote from me
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« Reply #378 on: October 27, 2018, 06:07:31 PM »

I'd like to see a butcher with a fulcrum or lost grey pommel. I think that would look pretty cool.

Sadly I don’t have those two to oblidge, but anyone who does, please show us! Cheesy
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« Reply #379 on: October 27, 2018, 11:36:41 PM »

Awesome pics everyone. Keep'em coming.
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« Reply #380 on: October 27, 2018, 04:37:18 PM »

It's been pointed out to me that some people on Facebook have been critical of the size of these sabers, that Ultrasabers made them too big. (I'm not on Facebook and never will be again) In response to that, I have a few images to share:



Now, to me, both sabers look pretty dang big in the games. I've been playing KOTOR again and can confirm that the Savior looks accurate size wise. Also, I don't think Ultrasabers is at all off base with the size of the Butcher. It's a big hilt in game too.
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« Reply #381 on: October 27, 2018, 11:56:38 PM »

Hi SFD,

Yes I can confirm that there were some negative comments about the Butcher in particular....and it didn't take a long time for them to appear either.
I'm not on FB but I do get to look at some of the groups without logging in (I always like to know if any of my "friends" mention me  Grin )

But in defence of the Butcher, it is pretty much to scale if Revan is proportioned like a well built Sith warrior!
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« Reply #382 on: October 27, 2018, 05:00:25 PM »

Haters are immediately going to jump on anything Ultrasabers releases. I'm not a fan of the scale on a couple Utlrasabers (the Fulcrum, for one) but I think they're not off base at all with the Butcher. And, I know the Savior is about spot-on, size wise.
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« Reply #383 on: October 28, 2018, 12:06:47 AM »

I belong to said groups to know about new releases and have witness the hate first hand.  The Butcher is really true to size and I’ve seen the other guys version that are much thinner in diameter which makes me wonder why they even design it in the first place
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« Reply #384 on: October 28, 2018, 01:37:30 AM »

I've never witnessed the hate, but it is absolutely unfounded.

From my perspective, the Butcher looks incredible. As long as it's not too large to wield or something like that; I couldn't care less how big it is. I can't wait to get it.

Personally, I like a larger hilt anyway.
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« Reply #385 on: October 27, 2018, 06:40:47 PM »

I'm not worried about the butchers size, since I have fairly big hands.
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« Reply #386 on: October 28, 2018, 03:42:13 AM »

I too prefer larger hilts. I can't wait to get my Butcher!
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« Reply #387 on: October 28, 2018, 03:57:43 AM »

I'm going to get a Butcher at some point. I think they've done it great and it's always nice having anodizing options. Smiley
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« Reply #388 on: October 28, 2018, 03:54:45 PM »

In response to the hate, let me just say I don’t get it. And yet, it’s something that’s apparent in almost any collecting community, or hobby enthusiasts group. Breaking it down in it’s simplest form, we could compare Ford and Chevy drivers. They are both very popular car makers and therefore, a good chunk of us will probably start out buying one or the other...and there’s nothing like that first experience. Then, after some time of driving one brand and getting very comfortable with it, those same people will switch up and try the other brand. It will usually feel a bit different, maybe even have some upgrades that take some time to adapt to. And while their favorite brand may have those same upgrades, all those little differences are now attributed to the other brand. And if they happen to get a lemon, they’re all lemons. Those folks will return to what they are used to and condemn the other brand.

Collectors are no different. Some will sample the fruits of other brands and enjoy the variety, while most will get caught up in the hype—or stick with that brand who started it all for them. And being fairly new to saber collecting, I can only say that looking around, I’ve seen companies who state anything without sound is a glow stick or a flashlight (and therefore a toy), others state sound and batteries change up the true dimensions of any saber and sound sabers are just toys. Scale is something that’s almost always an issue. I also collect diecast cars (Hotwheels, Johnny Lightning, etc...) and the battle of what is actually a true 1/64 scale, the stance of the car, rubber Vs. plastic tires, metal bases Vs. plastic bases, and overall accuracy demanded by some in a 3 inch car are arguments that go on and on.

What I’ve learned is simple: collect what YOU like. And enjoy it. Collecting for monetary value is always a crap shoot. And you’re never going to please everyone. 100% accuracy is rare and would probably mean licensing fees and more cost for the consumer. On the other hand, attention to detailing is always a winner. And if a company listens to their community and responds, that’s a rarity. Everyone is entitled to THEIR opinion. But what’s right for them isn’t going to be right for everyone.

Eventually, I will branch out and sample other brands. But I have to say, I feel like the companies who state in their banner that the “other guys” are just making toys and therefore crap, put me off. They have to know how that sounds—and consider that while they might want the other guys customers to sample their wares, they might also be offending the people who like that company they are casually putting down. That’s not a smart—or a user friendly—business model. If you only offer sound it’s because that’s you’re preference. If you don’t offer sound and focus on accuracy of models, let us know that too, but don’t slam everything else as a toy...because hey, collectibles range from plastic to metal and you’re almost always going to offend a good chunk of the collector’s market you’re trying to entice.  My two cents Smiley
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« Reply #389 on: October 28, 2018, 09:59:39 PM »

I just don't get people who hate something because it's popular to hate it. It's like the people who didn't see Solo, yet said it was crap. How do you know? If you saw it and think it's crap, then that's something different. If you've handled an Ultrasaber in person and think it's not a good saber, I'm cool with that. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But, don't be sheep and follow what others are doing. Be the alpha wolf and find out for yourself. Just my opinion, of course. I've tried various companies, and there are things that I like and don't like.

You're right, StoryDtechtive, it's very unprofessional when smiths badmouth others. There's one I won't order from because of this, among other factors.

Back to the Savior and Butcher, they look beautiful. I'm glad I bought my Savior. It's gorgeous, accurate enough for me, (the original saber is a low polygon game model with hardly any detail) and just a joy to wield. It makes this KOTOR fan super happy, especially since I paid $154 for a stunt, and that includes a forum color blade and that sweet presale blade plug. Cool Some guys charge about that much for just the hilt. I'll be picking up a Butcher at some point. I'm not worried about the size, I'm a tall dude and I have big hands. Ultrasabers' hilt size has never been an issue for me.
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