A note concerning some of the rumors flying around...

[Kham-Ryn Kurios]

I registered here directly in response to this video I ran across while looking up saber reviews.  I attempted to comment asking him what high school he's currently attending, as his video sounds exactly like some of the crap I hear from 7th graders in the hallway outside of my office.

At that point I noticed that the comments have to be approved, and since my comment, 2 comments have been added regarding how terrible ultrasabers are and how they're made-in-china crap (by an eleventeen year old who's previous videos posted on youtube were about how awesome his US dominix was).

It was at that point that I paid a visit to ultrasabers' store, and decided to comment on his video (though it wont get approved, its just for him) that he just made a sale for ultrasabers.  I then registered here, found this threadnaught lurking, and gave it a read.  I think I made the right decision.  If my grab bag saber turns out as awesome as most of you customers are saying, I intend on ordering a matching Shock LE and Initiate V3 LE for me and my girlfriend to go along with getting into swtor recently.

Ultra seems like a standup guy, and ultrasabers seem to have the best handle on this business, and their website is definitely the easiest, most friendly to use.  If their product quality is there, here will stand another repeat customer.  Just figured I'd share.

You did your own research and drew your own conclusions.

Welcome to the forum.

P.S. That Shock LE will look fraging sick next to the V3 LE.

[Master Bluespike74]

The only reason I watched his last video is that it was sent directly to my YouTube account by a member of another forum.  I reserve my comments until someone throws the stuff my way.  No matter how many videos are posted, my word will always be that without proof, the videos are a waste of time.  

I know that when I order from Ultrasabers, I get what I paid and it is delivered as promised.  I am pretty sure that is true of other Saber Smith's sites as well.  Unfortunately, the hate is only coming toward Ultrasabers and not toward any others that I know so that indicates to me that this is all personal and not professional.

When I have gone to other forums to do research, all I see is comments about how all the newbies suck.  Look at how you are treated on SaberForum.com and then go to another forum and read how others are treated by their comments.  Huge difference that can be independently verified.  

I hear crap about contracts being broken. I ask those that contact me for proof.  I have yet to receive any.  I ask people why they complain about SaberForum taking down comments when all comments to their videos have to be approved.  No response.  

Dealing with people outside the SaberForum.com is like YOU sticking your finger in a light socket.  The shock only occurs when YOU put your finger in there.  

I think it is wise not to entertain these "I hate Ultrasabers" YouTubers any longer.  Eventually, the hot air will run out and the balloon will drop and not one member of SaberForum.com will care.  

Have a nice day and I have zero problem if mods want to lock this thread.

Blue

[Osmethae]

It makes me wonder if Nova knows that Caine is such a good "friend", he's making potential customers flee. Like myself for example wanting more soundfonts, and then tangoprime avoiding the childishness on the other side.

[Kham-Ryn Kurios]

Have a nice day and I have zero problem if mods want to lock this thread.

Blue

We probably just should lock it.

I think the whole thing has reached it's peak.

At least through all of this someone did their research and now are soon to be an US owner because of what they saw and how they were treated.

[Slaxxor]

This thread was the main reason that I decided to give US a chance.

I am too old to deal with childish internet fueds...

Ultrasabers offers a good product at a good price, and they deliver it quickly.  That is what I look for when I want to spend money.

[Master Artorius Vidnyl]

This thread was the main reason that I decided to give US a chance.

I am too old to deal with childish internet fueds...

Ultrasabers offers a good product at a good price, and they deliver it quickly.  That is what I look for when I want to spend money.

Well said.  You've earned a point from me.

[Zren Tobas]

@Tango. You won't be disappointed. I have 2 Ultra Sabers and love them both. They are great quality sabers. Ubber awesomeness bright too. Getting tired of people bashing on Ultra Sabers. He who must not be named can call us Ultra's little puppies all he wants but I doubt no one will just up and leave Ultra Sabers behind especially if you have a huge collection  of sabers already. I see some with a collection of like 20 sabers. .-. When I get my Obsidian saber though I will be good there. Seriously though he needs to grow up. This is the wrong way to handle business. Not Ultra but the unmentionable.

[Ultra]

I do not want this thread locked. I used to think haters would just go away if I ignored them, but no, they say my silence confirms the rumors. I think its important for me to show that I will not hide from allegations of any kind.

What concerns me now are the attacks against the members of this community. There is simply no excuse for attacking the customers of this hobby. Its completely disgraceful.

[Master Bluespike74]

It makes me wonder if Nova knows that Caine is such a good "friend", he's making potential customers flee. Like myself for example wanting more soundfonts, and then tangoprime avoiding the childishness on the other side.

You make a great point.  Not one YouTube video or word from Nova to my knowledge.  Makes you wonder if he is not being scapegoated so that others can justify their own actions.  I will say that after someone from FX forums sent me the last video (even though I have asked for it to stop) that I will never buy anything from FX-Sabers.  Since Caine believes that I am some sort of idiot for not being the sort of person that believes everything he hears on YouTube, I refuse to spend one dime at saberforum.com.  

Ultrasabers.com will have my primary business.  If they don't sell it, I will search a secondary market but only if it cannot be obtained from Ultrasabers.  If FX-Sabers had any class, they would stop their members from Trolling and harassing others.  Also, I wonder what type of dojo is run when a supporter of Caine thought it was funny out of all my YouTube videos, he had to leave his/her nasty comments on the ones that were made of my 7 month old daughter.  Not cool at all and not cool to get that personal.  

[Osmethae]

You make a great point.  Not one YouTube video or word from Nova to my knowledge.  Makes you wonder if he is not being scapegoated so that others can justify their own actions.  I will say that after someone from FX forums sent me the last video (even though I have asked for it to stop) that I will never buy anything from FX-Sabers.  Since Caine believes that I am some sort of idiot for not being the sort of person that believes everything he hears on YouTube, I refuse to spend one dime at saberforum.com. 

Ultrasabers.com will have my primary business.  If they don't sell it, I will search a secondary market but only if it cannot be obtained from Ultrasabers.  If FX-Sabers had any class, they would stop their members from Trolling and harassing others.  Also, I wonder what type of dojo is run when a supporter of Caine thought it was funny out of all my YouTube videos, he had to leave his/her nasty comments on the ones that were made of my 7 month old daughter.  Not cool at all and not cool to get that personal. 

Wow that is completely out of hand and immoral. Hopefully you don't let it get to you.

I see once again Caine isn't man enough to stick with anything and has deleted all comments + disabled comments. Why he even still has his new video up is beyond me. It seems a lot more US supporters were showing up to tell him how big of a baby he is and he couldn't handle it.

Did I say supporters? I meant we're all brainwashed cultists.

Please pass the suicide punch.

[Jammo]

People making this personal is the aspect of it I really don't care for... I've had people try to ignite personal stuff with me over business stuff in my real life and that's just a raw deal.

[Amanita]

Wow, trashing your daugher? Classy

I have purchased a compilation of Novastar's sound fonts- he's got some great sound fonts that will work extremely well with my sabers, whether I'm doing SW cosplay, or using my sabers to simulate other energy blades. However, I don't consider myself a traitor to Ultra for doing that, any more than I would consider myself a traitor for buying some MHS parts from TCSS to personalize my sabers, or even commissioning another sabersmith to make something unique that I can't get from Ultra and TCSS. More options for consumers and end users is a good thing, IMHO.

Nastiness and negativity only hurt the hobby- it makes things worse for those who are getting into the hobby and are honestly trying to make informed decisions, in order to get the coolest saber they possibly can, at prices they can afford.

I agree with Ultra- business disputes belong in court, not in trash-talking internet videos. I got a PM on another forum from a member who felt that Ultra's Guardian video was personally calling him out, when it referred to the price and wait for other versions of that saber. Funny, I didn't see anything attacking in that video- only a statement that some other similar sabers cost a lot more, and that there tend to be long work queues. For some people, the higher fee might be worth it for extremely accurate detailing, right down to the last nut and bolt. Others may not be able to afford that, or desire to spend that, even if they could. Some people may be cool with waiting months for a custom saber, others may not be willing, or perhaps they need something for an event coming up sooner. That's not an attack or value judgement, it's a fact.

[Kham-Ryn Kurios]

What concerns me now are the attacks against the members of this community. There is simply no excuse for attacking the customers of this hobby. Its completely disgraceful.

IDC what happened with them and US but he started calling us "Bleating Sheep" and "Lemmings" essentially.

I never called him a name, I said what you're saying about the "Followers" (Yo use his words) is Offensive and rude.

He disabled commenting on the video but he called me and the whole forum "Rude..Boorish" and another word I forgot. lol

People making this personal is the aspect of it I really don't care for... I've had people try to ignite personal stuff with me over business stuff in my real life and that's just a raw deal.

I really wanted to let it go and leave it alone but then Caine started being nasty.

Wow that is completely out of hand and immoral. Hopefully you don't let it get to you.

I see once again Caine isn't man enough to stick with anything and has deleted all comments + disabled comments. Why he even still has his new video up is beyond me. It seems a lot more US supporters were showing up to tell him how big of a baby he is and he couldn't handle it.

Did I say supporters? I meant we're all brainwashed cultists.

Please pass the suicide punch.

Don't hog it all pass the punch around.

[Ultra]

So many Ultra Sabers supporters were posting, he disabled comments.

I appreciate the support, yall, truly, and it lifts my spirits to know I'm not alone.

However, please dont feel obligated to enter the fray. I hate seeing yall being abused and taking hits that are directed at me. And despite what you may have heard, I dont give any treats for sticking up for us.

[Kham-Ryn Kurios]

However, please dont feel obligated to enter the fray. I hate seeing yall being abused and taking hits that are directed at me. And despite what you may have heard, I dont give any treats for sticking up for us.

Understood Ultra and I'll say you're welcome from the forum.

Also why would I need a treat from you? I'll just go to the Sith and steal a cookie.