chalion
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« Reply #8505 on: August 31, 2020, 10:47:54 PM » |
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Agreed. The thin neck would be garbage for dueling and would eventually break. I get why some folks want US to make one so they can buy one brand and get the replicas they want but I’m with you, if they really want a movie accurate replica they should get one somewhere else and keep these focused on custom and unique sabers. I do like some of the inspired or replicated sabers US makes but I like their original hilts more.
Agreed. I have several other makers Lightsabers that accurately represent an "Obi-wan" lightsaber and if UltraSabers tried to be more accurate than the Archon v3.1, then it would either be girthy (more like some of the plastic toys out there), or annoyingly longer, because the grenade grip would not allow a sound board, LED module or switch be located in the US typical places. That makes making a more accurate hilt difficult and not easy to make. Note: My "Obi-wan" hilts probably cost 2-10 times the amount of the most expensive US hilts -----------------and took much longer to get crafted and delivered to me. Even with how this year has changed things in the lightsaber industry.
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« Reply #8506 on: September 01, 2020, 05:42:37 AM » |
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I must point out that the version of obi-Wan Kenobi‘s light saber I would like, is simply a modified Archon V2.1 just a black grenade grip near the top of the saber would be fine, nothing fancy.
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« Reply #8507 on: September 01, 2020, 11:12:52 AM » |
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I like US's "inspired" hilts. Archon, Chosen One, Guardian, especially the Graflex, etc... theyre just fun. Its cool to have a movie-inspired, instantly recognizable hilt without dropping ridiculous coin. The sabersnobs turn their nose up at them because they're not perfectly accurate, but who cares.. im not interested at this point in dropping $2k+ on a shelf queen collectible.
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« Reply #8508 on: September 01, 2020, 11:35:17 AM » |
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I like US's "inspired" hilts. Archon, Chosen One, Guardian, especially the Graflex, etc... theyre just fun. Its cool to have a movie-inspired, instantly recognizable hilt without dropping ridiculous coin. The sabersnobs turn their nose up at them because they're not perfectly accurate, but who cares.. im not interested at this point in dropping $2k+ on a shelf queen collectible.
I take that personnally since I am a sabersnob at times I do not like thin necks. I don't care for ep3/4 kenobi's lightsaber or luke's green one. I'm not a big fan of the different graflex hilts. In the saga. And I particularly don't like US version of those. So I most likely won't buy them. I love kenobi's first lightsaber and I like more and more what US did with their version of it. I love mace windu's hilt. Not a Big fan of US' version. I love what they did with the fallen. And I like both playing with and admiring the sabers. So I can understand why someone would want a US version of their favorite movie hilt. And as many people said, there is something for everyone on their catalog.
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« Reply #8509 on: September 01, 2020, 02:13:23 PM » |
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I like US's "inspired" hilts. Archon, Chosen One, Guardian, especially the Graflex, etc... theyre just fun. Its cool to have a movie-inspired, instantly recognizable hilt without dropping ridiculous coin. The sabersnobs turn their nose up at them because they're not perfectly accurate, but who cares.. im not interested at this point in dropping $2k+ on a shelf queen collectible.
I agree. "Close" is good enough. But when you get into the nitty gritty crap of distinguishing the individual minute differences between each movie's specific prop design, then it gets ridiculous. Like the Chosen One. Vader's saber underwent various design changes on every movie it was in. This in my opinion leads to catastrophically weak fan theories that these changes mean the saber changed. It had to be rebuilt or it was enhanced. How about NO, ya crazy nerds? Unless the movie focused on it, it's just a prop variation. Like Rey's Flex; that had movie focus. The 'band-aid', although small, was a reasonable design change with a purpose. But then, it's also Disney, so that meant more crap merch to sell. I take that personnally since I am a sabersnob at times I do not like thin necks. I don't care for ep3/4 kenobi's lightsaber or luke's green one. I'm not a big fan of the different graflex hilts. In the saga. And I particularly don't like US version of those. So I most likely won't buy them. I love kenobi's first lightsaber and I like more and more what US did with their version of it. I love mace windu's hilt. Not a Big fan of US' version. I love what they did with the fallen. And I like both playing with and admiring the sabers. So I can understand why someone would want a US version of their favorite movie hilt. And as many people said, there is something for everyone on their catalog. Agreed. I love my Archon 2.1. It is a terrific dueler. It bears a resemblance to Lukes, but by no means a replica. What I love most about the loose resemblance is that it can be anybody's saber. As a cosplayer, I have an aversion to a great cosplay being tainted by a saber that is recognizable as another character's.
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« Reply #8510 on: September 01, 2020, 02:38:55 PM » |
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Just adding my two bits...I'm perfectly fine with "inspired by", "a variation of", and "close enough". A saber like the Archon 2 or the Graflex, they don't have to be exact carbon copies; I look at those and I can tell what they're supposed to be, and in my mind, they are. Imagination fills in the details. As for the Fallen, I've heard some complaints about how it's not 100% accurate, but the US design looks so damn good, I don't even care.
Doesn't have to be an exact replica. Just make it a functional design that looks cool and I'm a happy guy.
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« Reply #8511 on: September 01, 2020, 03:23:10 PM » |
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Just adding my two bits...I'm perfectly fine with "inspired by", "a variation of", and "close enough". A saber like the Archon 2 or the Graflex, they don't have to be exact carbon copies; I look at those and I can tell what they're supposed to be, and in my mind, they are. Imagination fills in the details. As for the Fallen, I've heard some complaints about how it's not 100% accurate, but the US design looks so damn good, I don't even care.
Doesn't have to be an exact replica. Just make it a functional design that looks cool and I'm a happy guy.
I agree about the fallen. I would even say, their version looks better than in the game =p I want a close to perfect replica on my favourite hilts. But if I was a dueler, I would never put my replicas through a fight. So a close approximation would do it!
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« Reply #8512 on: September 01, 2020, 03:35:12 PM » |
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That’s my point exactly, close enough is good enough. I don’t want a perfect replica of the Obi-Wan Kenobi lightsaber, I want something that’s close, that can be dueled with, that I’m not afraid of damaging.
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« Reply #8513 on: September 01, 2020, 04:03:33 PM » |
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Just adding my two bits...I'm perfectly fine with "inspired by", "a variation of", and "close enough". A saber like the Archon 2 or the Graflex, they don't have to be exact carbon copies; I look at those and I can tell what they're supposed to be, and in my mind, they are. Imagination fills in the details. As for the Fallen, I've heard some complaints about how it's not 100% accurate, but the US design looks so damn good, I don't even care.
Doesn't have to be an exact replica. Just make it a functional design that looks cool and I'm a happy guy.
My beef with the Fallen was the damned weight of the emitter. That saber is a beast. And I should know, I own some beastly sabers. However, I love when a US design can be easily modified. Like this one: This was a mod done BaliMawr. I think the Cat emitter looks infinitely better, but that's also because I'm not a fan of emitter shrouds. I agree about the fallen. I would even say, their version looks better than in the game =p I want a close to perfect replica on my favourite hilts. But if I was a dueler, I would never put my replicas through a fight. So a close approximation would do it!
That's also because the saber from the game is a broken staff, so it's ratty looking. That’s my point exactly, close enough is good enough. I don’t want a perfect replica of the Obi-Wan Kenobi lightsaber, I want something that’s close, that can be dueled with, that I’m not afraid of damaging.
So you're just looking for an Archon 4.1 with a black pineapple grip versus the ringed grip of Luke's? I don't see that being too much of a stretch. Sorry if it sounded like I was singling you out, but I do get really tired of hearing THAT suggestion over and over.
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« Reply #8514 on: September 01, 2020, 05:52:09 PM » |
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Yeah, it is broken in the game. But it's more than that. The moment I could, I started swapping parts. But the crimson or LE Fallen?? Damn beauties.
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« Reply #8515 on: September 01, 2020, 06:39:22 PM » |
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My beef with the Fallen was the damned weight of the emitter. That saber is a beast. And I should know, I own some beastly sabers. However, I love when a US design can be easily modified. Like this one: Dr. Frankensaber? Nice creations!
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« Reply #8516 on: September 01, 2020, 07:17:36 PM » |
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Not mine. But now I rrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllyyyyy want a Fallen with a Cat emitter.
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« Reply #8517 on: September 02, 2020, 05:32:46 AM » |
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So you're just looking for an Archon 4.1 with a black pineapple grip versus the ringed grip of Luke's?
That’s exactly what I’m looking for. Nothing fancy, just a slight alteration. I don't see that being too much of a stretch.
Sorry if it sounded like I was singling you out, but I do get really tired of hearing THAT suggestion over and over.
No worries bro, I understand. I’ll try to only post about it say once a month.
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« Reply #8518 on: September 02, 2020, 03:31:51 PM » |
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That’s exactly what I’m looking for. Nothing fancy, just a slight alteration.
I wish you would have phrased it like that. "I would like to see linear grooves cut through the rings of the Archon v3.1 to better resemble Obi Wan's saber." This actually indicates a method to your thought process; not just "I want an Obi Wan hilt." BUT, they may not go for it because it is my opinion that the Arbiter is the "Obi Wan". No it doesn't strongly resemble it, but it borrows elements from it. No worries bro, I understand. I’ll try to only post about it say once a month.
That's still a lot. -_-
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« Reply #8519 on: September 02, 2020, 04:59:59 PM » |
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So you're just looking for an Archon 4.1 with a black pineapple grip versus the ringed grip of Luke's? I don't see that being too much of a stretch.
Hello Logos and BlindJedi, In April I posted these Blender 3D designs inspired by Kenobi's hilt... not totally accurate or anything but it shows what might be possible.
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