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« Reply #2505 on: January 09, 2018, 10:25:20 PM » |
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ho k. So.....
How is it that Princess Leia is a "princess" when her foster father is only a senator? ô¿o
How is her birth mother, the Queen, a senator? The titles may not represent the same thing as we know them in our humdrum world of unreachable stars and glamourless wars. |
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Taegin Roan
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« Reply #2506 on: January 09, 2018, 10:45:31 PM » |
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ho k. So.....
How is it that Princess Leia is a "princess" when her foster father is only a senator? ô¿o
She is of the Royal family of Aldaraan, that is all I know. How is her birth mother, the Queen, a senator?
The titles may not represent the same thing as we know them in our humdrum world of unreachable stars and glamourless wars.
The Naboo elect their Queens, much like we American's do our presidents. Once their term expires, they get out of office. However, Padme just couldn't give up her power, so she became the next best thing (actually, the new queen asked her to be a senator, but I like my reason better).  And you all know that stuff already.  |
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Darth Tepes
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« Reply #2507 on: January 09, 2018, 10:48:22 PM » |
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ho k. So.....
How is it that Princess Leia is a "princess" when her foster father is only a senator? ô¿o
He is Senator representing the Alderaan sector in the Galactic Senate...But is also a member (Prince) of the Alderaan Royal Family. |
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« Reply #2508 on: January 10, 2018, 03:07:37 PM » |
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How is her birth mother, the Queen, a senator?
Because she didn't become a Senator until after her terms as queen. And after she was done, she no longer retained the title. She was Senator Amidala He is Senator representing the Alderaan sector in the Galactic Senate...But is also a member (Prince) of the Alderaan Royal Family.
I figured it might be in some background reading that I haven't seen yet. Being Sith, galactic politics don't interest me. |
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Obese Wan Kenobese
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« Reply #2509 on: January 10, 2018, 09:56:58 PM » |
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Because she didn't become a Senator until after her terms as queen. And after she was done, she no longer retained the title. She was Senator Amidala
I figured it might be in some background reading that I haven't seen yet. Being Sith, galactic politics don't interest me.
My point was an example of a Queen that became Senator, likened to Leia's adoptive father. Lucas had layers. Onions have layers. Lucas had layers. The Sith are very political. Promising order. Palpatine may have made the most use of democratic politics and war as his machinations, but he is not the first. Even those that rule by power over other Sith are the essence of government throughout history. |
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Selfish passion is unquenching.
What strength have you when you are a slave to your passions?
What power without strength of character?
To self centered rage, you will be chained.
The dark side is no victory.
The long path to peace is through balanced emotions.
The first step to gaining knowledge is recognizing your own ignorance.
Serenity is patient, not passionate satisfaction.
Find harmony by understanding chaos.
Become one with the force, which will never die.
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« Reply #2510 on: January 10, 2018, 10:02:00 PM » |
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My point was an example of a Queen that became Senator, likened to Leia's adoptive father. Lucas had layers. Onions have layers. Lucas had layers.
The Sith are very political. Promising order. Palpatine may have made the most use of democratic politics and war as his machinations, but he is not the first. Even those that rule by power over other Sith are the essence of government throughout history.
No Sidious played the system. There's a difference. Most Sith handle politics like Vader. |
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Taegin Roan
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« Reply #2511 on: January 10, 2018, 10:57:27 PM » |
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No Sidious played the system. There's a difference. Most Sith handle politics like Vader.
"This technological terror you have constructed is insignificant next to the power of the Force" (I'm pretty sure that's how it goes anyways) |
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« Reply #2512 on: January 11, 2018, 01:42:40 AM » |
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ho k. So.....
How is it that Princess Leia is a "princess" when her foster father is only a senator? ô¿o
She was always Daddy's Little Princess? Or maybe because real mom was a "Queen," though I'm still foggy on how you elect a monarch... I dunno, George Lucas wrote it, so it's not supposed to make sense. |
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Obese Wan Kenobese
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« Reply #2513 on: January 11, 2018, 01:46:44 AM » |
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She was always Daddy's Little Princess?
Or maybe because real mom was a "Queen," though I'm still foggy on how you elect a monarch... I dunno, George Lucas wrote it, so it's not supposed to make sense.
Lucas has layers. |
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Selfish passion is unquenching.
What strength have you when you are a slave to your passions?
What power without strength of character?
To self centered rage, you will be chained.
The dark side is no victory.
The long path to peace is through balanced emotions.
The first step to gaining knowledge is recognizing your own ignorance.
Serenity is patient, not passionate satisfaction.
Find harmony by understanding chaos.
Become one with the force, which will never die.
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« Reply #2514 on: January 11, 2018, 01:57:47 AM » |
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Lucas has layers.
like an ogre. . . or a Hut. . . |
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« Reply #2515 on: January 11, 2018, 02:08:32 AM » |
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She was always Daddy's Little Princess?
Or maybe because real mom was a "Queen," though I'm still foggy on how you elect a monarch... I dunno, George Lucas wrote it, so it's not supposed to make sense.
Like was said...Bail Organa was Prince of Alderaan and represented his sector in the senate. There is such thing as an Elective Monarchy... In fact that used to be more common than a Hereditary Monarchy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elective_monarchy |
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« Reply #2516 on: January 11, 2018, 01:51:56 PM » |
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"This technological terror you have constructed is insignificant next to the power of the Force" (I'm pretty sure that's how it goes anyways)
Close. "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force." (I've seen that one a few times. ) She was always Daddy's Little Princess?
Or maybe because real mom was a "Queen," though I'm still foggy on how you elect a monarch... I dunno, George Lucas wrote it, so it's not supposed to make sense.
Ummmm.....................no. Besides Hamill asked when he met Prince William (I think) at the London premier. "If my mother was Queen Amidala, my father was Lord Vader, and my sister is Princess Leia, doesn't that make me royalty too?" Or something to that effect. I'm sticking with Tepes' explanation. A prince is more than likely next in line. Kind of like how Prince Charles was never King. The line of succession passed over him onto his son. Where's Casey when you need him? |
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« Reply #2517 on: January 11, 2018, 02:36:57 PM » |
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Close.
Ummmm.....................no. Besides Hamill asked when he met Prince William (I think) at the London premier. "If my mother was Queen Amidala, my father was Lord Vader, and my sister is Princess Leia, doesn't that make me royalty too?" Or something to that effect.
Nope...Amidala was an Elected Queen who served her term and stayed on as Senator...so no Royal Blood There. "Lord" Vader was not a Royal Title...so no royal Blood there. Leia was Princess by adoption.. |
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« Reply #2518 on: January 11, 2018, 02:53:26 PM » |
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Nope...Amidala was an Elected Queen who served her term and stayed on as Senator...so no Royal Blood There. "Lord" Vader was not a Royal Title...so no royal Blood there. Leia was Princess by adoption..
I think Mark was simply making a joke. |
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« Reply #2519 on: January 12, 2018, 12:19:31 AM » |
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Close.
"Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force."
Ah. My last viewing was the only time I ever actually thought to listen to that phrase, so it isn't hard to see why my memory did not work perfectly. |
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