Random Star Wars Thoughts

[Darth Justicar]

More importantly, why wouldn't the Republic fight the FO head on? Why was there only a Resistance?

Pure political weakness and cowardice.  The idiots disarmed.

[ithekro]

The Republic didn't consider the First Order to be a threat.   Plus there seems to be some evidence that they may have been a rival political movement that was sympathetic to the ideals of the New Order and thus would turn a blind eye towards the First Order in hopes of allowing their faction to come into power and restore at least some of the New Order's policies without crowning a new emperor.

The Republic stood down after the armistice with the Empire as the Empire was effectively defanged.  Also it ended nearly thirty years of continual military spending  (not only of the Republic but also of former Separatist worlds) and conflict that started in the Clone Wars and ended at Jakku.  The "present day" Republic fleet is nowhere near as large as the Clone War's era Republic fleet, but is still the largest fleet in the Galaxy.

As for where the fleet was.  We could see about a dozen capital ships in orbit when the capital was destroyed.  One can guess the other planets were the naval yards and the like for the large ships.  A "fleet in being" I think is the term.  The major capital ships stay in port as a potential threat to anyone that attacks the Republic, while smaller ships deal with the every day piracy patrols and border patrols.

Starkiller Base evened the odds for the First Order.  With the Republic's main fleet gone, their new larger Star Destroyers will have an advantage over whatever the Republic has left in the Galaxy.  In both size and perhaps numbers.

[Darth Logos]

Pure political weakness and cowardice.  The idiots disarmed.

"A wise king (leader) never seeks out war. But he must always be ready for it." - Odin Allfather

The Republic didn't consider the First Order to be a threat.   Plus there seems to be some evidence that they may have been a rival political movement that was sympathetic to the ideals of the New Order and thus would turn a blind eye towards the First Order in hopes of allowing their faction to come into power and restore at least some of the New Order's policies without crowning a new emperor.

The Republic stood down after the armistice with the Empire as the Empire was effectively defanged.  Also it ended nearly thirty years of continual military spending  (not only of the Republic but also of former Separatist worlds) and conflict that started in the Clone Wars and ended at Jakku.  The "present day" Republic fleet is nowhere near as large as the Clone War's era Republic fleet, but is still the largest fleet in the Galaxy.

As for where the fleet was.  We could see about a dozen capital ships in orbit when the capital was destroyed.  One can guess the other planets were the naval yards and the like for the large ships.  A "fleet in being" I think is the term.  The major capital ships stay in port as a potential threat to anyone that attacks the Republic, while smaller ships deal with the every day piracy patrols and border patrols.

Starkiller Base evened the odds for the First Order.  With the Republic's main fleet gone, their new larger Star Destroyers will have an advantage over whatever the Republic has left in the Galaxy.  In both size and perhaps numbers.

I was told that the Republic capital is no longer centered on a single planet, but is moved based on the current administration. If this were the case, then why would the ship yards be stationed in the Hasnian system? Unless it just happened to be that the current admin set the capital in the same system as the ship yards.

Had something else, but it's gone now.

[Darth Tepes]

"A wise king (leader) never seeks out war. But he must always be ready for it." - Odin Allfather

I was told that the Republic capital is no longer centered on a single planet, but is moved based on the current administration. If this were the case, then why would the ship yards be stationed in the Hasnian system? Unless it just happened to be that the current admin set the capital in the same system as the ship yards.

Had something else, but it's gone now.

I figured the fleet moved with the Capital...btw..the New Capital is decided by vote.

[Kham-Ryn Kurios]

This popped up on my FB feed this morning. It's the therapy session I tried to construct for Kham, but unfortunately never finished:

http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=14006.0

[shade_1313]

I'm sure someone's caught on to this before, but it just occurred to me.

What was Bail's plan?

At the end of Revenge of the Sith, Bail Organa takes in the newborn Leia, and also takes C3P0 (albeit with memory wiped) and R2-D2 into his household's service.  At the same meeting, it was decided that Obi-Wan Kenobi would take Luke to his only remaining family, and stay to watch over him.

Nearly two decades later, Leia was on a mission, with the Death Star plans in her care.  She was accompanied by one of the most accomplished astromechs of the Clone Wars, a droid Bail Organa knew well, from all of his dealings with Anakin Skywalker.  More specifically, as she says in her message to Obi-Wan, delivered via R2, that she wasn't just in the area, she was sent, by her father, to find him.  As she says, "My mission to bring you to Alderaan has failed."  Bail sent her, purposefully, not only to the location where he knew Obi-Wan had been hiding, but it cannot have escaped his notice that he was sending her to the vicinity of her twin brother, and that it was almost a certainty that, should she have succeeded in reaching Obi-Wan, that he would have done everything he could to bring Luke along with him, as he had a primary duty to watch over him.

Again, Bail Organa, in full knowledge of just who these long-separated twins were the children of, deliberately sent Leia on a course that would have brought both of Anakin's children into the Rebel/Imperial conflict.

Was it left to him to decide on a time to move those two pieces onto the board?  Did he get a message from Yoda, meditating on Dagobah, that the time had come for their next moves, after so long spent planning and wiating?  Did he just make the decision on his own, perhaps before Obi-Wan and/or Yoda would have preferred?

Why did Bail Organa deliberately set in motion a plan that would have brought both of Anakin's children to his own household and planet?  What was he planning on telling them, if he had succeeded?  Was retrieving Yoda the next part of his plan?

And I haven't forgotten R2, who held in his memory banks everything needed to verify the truth to the twins, if he indeed planned on doing so.

So many ridiculously fascinating "what if?" scenarios that could come from this.  

[ithekro]

It is possible that she didn't start out on this plan with the Death Star Plans, and that her mission was to retrieve Obi-wan Kenobi due them needing a Jedi badly.   Bail probably figured the Jedi had worked some stuff out for the Skywalker twins and Kenobi would work his magic once they were needed.  Probably would go pick up Yoda afterwards if they felt it necessary.

Leia's ship seems to have been diverted from her mission to get the Death Star Plans, which brought Darth Vader himself after her.  I doubt dragging him to Tattoine was part of the plan.

[Darth Tepes]

Another interesting what if scenario I thought of is what If they had caught R2.  Could some feelings have been stirred in Vader seeing the astromech that accompanied him on so many missions and that he risked his life to retrieve from danger.

[Darth Logos]

Another interesting what if scenario I thought of is what If they had caught R2.  Could some feelings have been stirred in Vader seeing the astromech that accompanied him on so many missions and that he risked his life to retrieve from danger.

A) If he were truly Sith, no.
B) I saw a concept scene, probably fan-fic, that showed Vader picking up 3PO's head after he was blasted on Cloud City.

[Kham-Ryn Kurios]

Another interesting what if scenario I thought of is what If they had caught R2.  Could some feelings have been stirred in Vader seeing the astromech that accompanied him on so many missions and that he risked his life to retrieve from danger.

Probably not, Vader is so far divorced from Anakin Skywalker he probably wouldn't recognize the droid.

However, R2 getting caught is a terrifying notion in and of itself. If R2 were to get captured, especially by the First Order, the wealth of accumulated knowledge could spell the end of the republic.

[Darth Justicar]

Was Vader that divorced from Anakin, or was he just trying to tell himself he was?  I think that's a valid question, especially by the time he became aware his son was out there.

I also tend to wonder about Anakin because of what we saw with Kylo Ren, who I think has NOT truly killed his prior self, despite all of Snoke's efforts to purge him of it.

[Darth Logos]

Was Vader that divorced from Anakin, or was he just trying to tell himself he was?  I think that's a valid question, especially by the time he became aware his son was out there.

I also tend to wonder about Anakin because of what we saw with Kylo Ren, who I think has NOT truly killed his prior self, despite all of Snoke's efforts to purge him of it.

One of the biggest things that was stressed in Darth Bane's training, and more than likely passed down through the Rule of Two, was that when you become Sith, you are reborn, and no longer bound to your previous life. As far as Anakin goes..."That name, no longer has any meaning for me."

[Rapine]

Darth Vader concept:

[Darth Justicar]

Kinda looks like Star Wars collided with Master Chief.

[Rapine]

Kinda looks like Star Wars collided with Master Chief.

Never seen Master Chief.  Will right now...


...and now I have.   I have so seen him, of course; the Halo guy.