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« Reply #1560 on: September 13, 2016, 03:51:16 PM »

The new films are made for the masses, the casual moviegoer, the young kids just learning about Star wars cuz their parents are introducing them to it. Mainly everyone here knows of the extended universe, Plagueis, other siths, other Jedis. But the casual fan hasnt had the chance to see, read, know these things. The new films are simplified so as a whole, it's understandable and not too overly complex. Most here want some more of an intricate storyline. But if you start getting introducing characters only as dialogue that fanatics will understand, but you never visually see, you lose the casual fan. Episode 2, biggest piece of caca I've ever seen, talks about Sifo-Dyas ordering the clone army, says kamino was erased from the archives. Hypotheticals that never got answered as to who exactly did it. Was it palpatine who posed as Sifo-Dyas, was it Dooku? If you never visually saw what happened, it becomes obsolete, too complex and frankly overlooked as a whole to the story that most people don't remember. It has to be simplified for the casual fan, many adaptations do this and you have push back from the fanatics, but as a whole, it has to be simplified.
I also believe for the franchise to move forward, be progressive, stop being beholden to the past. Professional teams, 30 somethings still reminiscing about days when they were younger, never progress. I personally don't wanna see that rey is the daughter of a cousin of this jedi, that was this, and because of that, which was a prisoner in the original death star.. NO! Move on! My one arf with Disney is that they recast a young han solo and are doing a prequel. Rogue One, how they got the plans, cool, but just one prequel! My issue with prequels is that if the character isn't in the newer ones, then your character is a waste, cuz it never was critical to anything that has transpired since. Prequels are just the guy who just can't let go
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« Reply #1561 on: September 13, 2016, 06:06:47 PM »

Personally, I feel that if you're going to do a stand-alone of a beloved character, do one of a character that we kinda sorta don't have forever wed to one actor. AHEM.....Solo. I'd be more interested in learning more of how Boba fared after the death of Jango. Or better yet, alter the details, but tell the story of how Jango was recruited to be the DNA of the Clone Army. I thought the story of Bounty Hunter was pretty good.
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« Reply #1562 on: September 13, 2016, 06:17:16 PM »

Well, I don't know if Boba fett alone could carry a film as a whole, but maybe a side by side storyline of young han, young boba, would be pretty cool, where fate leads them to each other. Perhaps boba has a personal vengeance to han. But just one film! No "new adventures of han and chewy" cuz any new character has a ceiling, and its not very high
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« Reply #1563 on: September 13, 2016, 06:20:32 PM »

Well, I don't know if Boba fett alone could carry a film as a whole, but maybe a side by side storyline of young han, young boba, would be pretty cool, where fate leads them to each other. Perhaps boba has a personal vengeance to han. But just one film! No "new adventures of han and chewy" cuz any new character has a ceiling, and its not very high

I disagree.  I believe that Boba Fett could very well carry his own movie if not several movies.  He was one of the greatest bounty hunters in the known universe.  A series based on his hunts and how he became so awesome would make great cinema. My opinion of course Grin
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« Reply #1564 on: September 13, 2016, 06:27:39 PM »

I disagree.  I believe that Boba Fett could very well carry his own movie if not several movies.  He was one of the greatest bounty hunters in the known universe.  A series based on his hunts and how he became so awesome would make great cinema. My opinion of course Grin

But with the villain, you need the hero. Who plays the hero? My mind is blanking on many films, but I don't remember any that the villain is main dude, and it works. I don't see it working without making him less of a villain. Would they inject personal conflict, cuz if they do, it would tarnish his cold hearted persona.
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« Reply #1565 on: September 13, 2016, 07:04:16 PM »

Well, I don't know if Boba fett alone could carry a film as a whole, but maybe a side by side storyline of young han, young boba, would be pretty cool, where fate leads them to each other. Perhaps boba has a personal vengeance to han. But just one film! No "new adventures of han and chewy" cuz any new character has a ceiling, and its not very high

Adventures of Han and Chewie sounds like a TV series.

But with the villain, you need the hero. Who plays the hero? My mind is blanking on many films, but I don't remember any that the villain is main dude, and it works. I don't see it working without making him less of a villain. Would they inject personal conflict, cuz if they do, it would tarnish his cold hearted persona.

Easy. Boba. Anti-heroes are in right now. Kinda how I'd spin the story of Darth Logos. He's Sith, but he's by no means traditional. Galactic conquest is not high on his priorities. He does the right thing, he's just not very nice about it. Wink
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« Reply #1566 on: September 13, 2016, 07:24:20 PM »


Easy. Boba. Anti-heroes are in right now. Kinda how I'd spin the story of Darth Logos. He's Sith, but he's by no means traditional. Galactic conquest is not high on his priorities. He does the right thing, he's just not very nice about it. Wink

Good baddies, no. You gotta be bad, or you're just a confused fool. Boba is bad, he can't be an anti hero. Disintegrations!! That's not anti hero, that's cold!
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« Reply #1567 on: September 13, 2016, 08:43:58 PM »

Good baddies, no. You gotta be bad, or you're just a confused fool. Boba is bad, he can't be an anti hero. Disintegrations!! That's not anti hero, that's cold!

I think they're are a few success stories that beg to differ.



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« Reply #1568 on: September 14, 2016, 12:16:47 AM »

Personally, I feel that if you're going to do a stand-alone of a beloved character, do one of a character that we kinda sorta don't have forever wed to one actor. AHEM.....Solo. I'd be more interested in learning more of how Boba fared after the death of Jango. Or better yet, alter the details, but tell the story of how Jango was recruited to be the DNA of the Clone Army. I thought the story of Bounty Hunter was pretty good.

Pretty sure I read how Boba fared after Jangos death(was possibly kiddified stuff but I remember boba having a pretty rough time) il try & find a ref for you ,but I have so many books+ebooks.hmmmmm
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« Reply #1569 on: September 14, 2016, 12:52:46 AM »

I alsways thought sgt. Skirata & his " boys" were awsome! Deserved a lot more plots, & storylines were pretty damn good. (I never played the game's) was very sad when the characters didnt appear again Sad mandoa ehh...
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« Reply #1570 on: September 14, 2016, 01:32:39 AM »

Pretty sure I read how Boba fared after Jangos death(was possibly kiddified stuff but I remember boba having a pretty rough time) il try & find a ref for you ,but I have so many books+ebooks.hmmmmm

Clone Wars hit it a little. He ran a team of thugs for hire at one point. Ventress left him holding the bag on a deal where he was gonna swindle her anyway.
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« Reply #1571 on: September 14, 2016, 02:00:20 AM »

Personally, I feel that if you're going to do a stand-alone of a beloved character, do one of a character that we kinda sorta don't have forever wed to one actor. AHEM.....Solo.

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« Reply #1572 on: September 14, 2016, 04:24:22 AM »

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« Reply #1573 on: September 14, 2016, 07:54:26 AM »

The new films are made for the masses, the casual moviegoer, the young kids just learning about Star wars cuz their parents are introducing them to it. Mainly everyone here knows of the extended universe, Plagueis, other siths, other Jedis. But the casual fan hasnt had the chance to see, read, know these things. The new films are simplified so as a whole, it's understandable and not too overly complex. Most here want some more of an intricate storyline. But if you start getting introducing characters only as dialogue that fanatics will understand, but you never visually see, you lose the casual fan. Episode 2, biggest piece of caca I've ever seen, talks about Sifo-Dyas ordering the clone army, says kamino was erased from the archives. Hypotheticals that never got answered as to who exactly did it. Was it palpatine who posed as Sifo-Dyas, was it Dooku? If you never visually saw what happened, it becomes obsolete, too complex and frankly overlooked as a whole to the story that most people don't remember. It has to be simplified for the casual fan, many adaptations do this and you have push back from the fanatics, but as a whole, it has to be simplified.
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It is not my point. I am not some elitist hardcore fan (well, i am but i do not want they make a movie me  Grin ) ... i just wanted some originality ...

Honestly, a big "deathstar" destroyed by a x-wing pilote that fired on a weak point after flying in a canyon ... just before the destruction of the rebe... hem resistance secret base ...
Honestly, heros escaping from a desert planet with the falcon ... and hiding themselves after the falcon was captured ...
... a cantina ... a dark knight ... a holographic great leader ... the destruction of a planet as demonstration ...


Ep. 2 was definitively more original ...
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« Reply #1574 on: September 14, 2016, 12:56:59 PM »



This is awesome! I always knew a farmer kid couldn't do it by himself...
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