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« Reply #1605 on: September 25, 2016, 09:39:59 PM » |
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Honestly, my feeling about Han and Leia's marriage was that with the vast differences in outlooks and temperaments, their marriage wasn't going to be stable under the best of circumstances. After what happened with Ben...well...for me, I felt like I understood what happened, even though it means there was no fairy tale ending as a lot of fans would have wanted.
And I also think that the way Han went out ultimately fulfilled his character development arc in a powerful way. Yes, he did try to run like he did when he was younger at first. But in the end, his love for his son and his desire to get him back at any cost won out. And for someone who began A New Hope as a completely selfish individual to go out on that bridge knowing he was very likely to sacrifice his life--AND STILL SHOW THAT LOVE AND COURAGE AFTER THE BETRAYAL--to me, that is incredibly powerful. Yes, it may have been in the proverbial last minute...but he completed his hero's journey.
But what can I say--I'm one of those "weird" people who really loved TFA.
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Darth Calon
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« Reply #1606 on: September 25, 2016, 10:36:35 PM » |
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Also one could suppose (and this is purely my own logic which may or may not make sense) that, given this fact, if Anakin had gone to Padme's side, their relationship would have been exposed.
It sort of was in his and Obi's heated argument about it. |
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Majobu5
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« Reply #1607 on: September 25, 2016, 10:45:20 PM » |
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Hey, if Princess Leia originally had the plans for the death star, won't a young Princess Leia be in Rogue One?
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« Reply #1608 on: September 25, 2016, 10:58:55 PM » |
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Hey, if Princess Leia originally had the plans for the death star, won't a young Princess Leia be in Rogue One?
Maybe as a cameo or voice over as they transmit the plans to her ship. |
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« Reply #1609 on: September 25, 2016, 10:59:54 PM » |
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Hey, if Princess Leia originally had the plans for the death star, won't a young Princess Leia be in Rogue One?
Most likely some sort of mention or cameo near the end when they transmit the plans..right before Vader kills them all...I hope |
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« Reply #1610 on: September 25, 2016, 11:04:20 PM » |
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Seemed liked everyone was wondering if han was going to be in there, but Leia is actually part of it. Wonder who it'll be? Leaving it out would be ridiculous
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« Reply #1611 on: September 25, 2016, 11:08:09 PM » |
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Seemed liked everyone was wondering if han was going to be in there, but Leia is actually part of it. Wonder who it'll be? Leaving it out would be ridiculous
No reason for Han to be in it..that was a lot of people who seemed to have no clue when the film was set |
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« Reply #1612 on: September 25, 2016, 11:22:41 PM » |
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Seemed liked everyone was wondering if han was going to be in there, but Leia is actually part of it. Wonder who it'll be? Leaving it out would be ridiculous
I don't know everyone's thoughts on her acting ability but for a quick glimpse of a young Leia, then Sophia Bush maybe a candidate for the role.Unless Disney go CGI again. (She looked the part on the Mythbusters Star Wars Special) |
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« Reply #1613 on: September 26, 2016, 02:35:55 AM » |
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Little blue hologram and a voice over would work. Doesn't even need to be Carrie Fisher at that point save for the face. And they can do that easily enough since they did it for the revamped Star Tours ride.
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« Reply #1614 on: September 26, 2016, 03:13:06 AM » |
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It sort of was in his and Obi's heated argument about it.
Yes, undoubtedly Obi-Wan knew. But that doesn't mean that he revealed that information to the council. If a report came back about Anakin blatantly abandoning his mission for the sake of saving Padme even though she wasn't in danger at the time... Then the council would hear about it. |
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« Reply #1615 on: September 26, 2016, 04:01:45 AM » |
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My 10 year old son asked me today while I was explaining why Yoda and obi-wan are ghosts. He said "what if the hologram of Snoke isn't a hologram and is a ghost instead?" Now initially he meant the emperor's ghost, but then I got to thinking that what if it is an ancient sith, Plagueis or another, who is a ghost spirit? It's something to kick around, no?
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« Reply #1616 on: September 26, 2016, 04:44:27 AM » |
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My 10 year old son asked me today while I was explaining why Yoda and obi-wan are ghosts. He said "what if the hologram of Snoke isn't a hologram and is a ghost instead?" Now initially he meant the emperor's ghost, but then I got to thinking that what if it is an ancient sith, Plagueis or another, who is a ghost spirit? It's something to kick around, no?
I'll Have to look at the DVD again but I do believe you can hear the Hologram sound when Snoke disappears after the first time you see him |
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« Reply #1617 on: September 26, 2016, 05:03:40 AM » |
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Can the Jedi and Sith spirits appear to non force sensitives? I see no sign that Hux is a force user. I sensed a rivalry between them, like children competing for daddy's approval, but no sign that Hux was receiving training.
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« Reply #1618 on: September 26, 2016, 05:31:23 AM » |
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Can the Jedi and Sith spirits appear to non force sensitives? I see no sign that Hux is a force user. I sensed a rivalry between them, like children competing for daddy's approval, but no sign that Hux was receiving training.
Another Valid point. I don't think Non Force Sensitives can see them, and yea Hux, Ren and Phasma all kind of had a "I want to be favorite" mentality. It's why I think Phasma shut down the shields without much fuss. No one knows it was her and Hux is going to look mighty bad in Snoke's eyes now that he Lost their greatest weapon. |
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« Reply #1619 on: September 26, 2016, 05:40:37 AM » |
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Another Valid point. I don't think Non Force Sensitives can see them, and yea Hux, Ren and Phasma all kind of had a "I want to be favorite" mentality. It's why I think Phasma shut down the shields without much fuss. No one knows it was her and Hux is going to look mighty bad in Snoke's eyes now that he Lost their greatest weapon.
I've meant to bring this up as well, speaking of Phasma. We are to assume she made it out of the trash compactor and fled to safety, right? I don't know the rules as far as the dark side goes on ghost spirits. Perhaps it's not so exclusive. Idk just a thought that bounced around |
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