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« Reply #1665 on: September 28, 2016, 08:08:25 PM » |
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Or she is more a councilor type that doesn't do things the way a old style guardian would. The days when you didn't pull out your lightsaber except as a last resort, rather than at the first sign of trouble.
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Obese Wan Kenobese
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« Reply #1666 on: September 28, 2016, 08:22:13 PM » |
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"You have a power that I....I don't understand, and could never have." "You're wrong, Leia. You have that power, too. And in time, you'll learn to use it, as I have."
I didn't mean to say it was a quote. I just didn't think it was necessary to use time to search the official quote. I thought everyone would recognize it. I need some kind of mark for quote approximation references. Point for your time. I am disappointed if Leia doesn't have at least a training level like Luke had in ESB. She had 30 years to develop what Luke did in between ANH and ESB plus however long he was with Yoda. And Rey is kickin' Kylo in a day? The writers are missing things or just not spending the time to make it clear. Either way, it was a weakness I felt while watching the first time. Kylo's injury shouldn't be enough to bring him down to her level. They have something to reveal why Rey picks things up so fast, and Leia doesn't.
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« Reply #1667 on: September 28, 2016, 09:07:35 PM » |
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I didn't mean to say it was a quote. I just didn't think it was necessary to use time to search the official quote. I thought everyone would recognize it. I need some kind of mark for quote approximation references. Point for your time.
I am disappointed if Leia doesn't have at least a training level like Luke had in ESB. She had 30 years to develop what Luke did in between ANH and ESB plus however long he was with Yoda. And Rey is kickin' Kylo in a day? The writers are missing things or just not spending the time to make it clear. Either way, it was a weakness I felt while watching the first time. Kylo's injury shouldn't be enough to bring him down to her level. They have something to reveal why Rey picks things up so fast, and Leia doesn't.
I didn't search for that quote. As for the writers, it's probably a little column A, a little column B. The "weak" is strong in the new stories.
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« Reply #1668 on: September 29, 2016, 01:20:06 AM » |
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The new canon has hinted that Luke trained Leia in some aspects of the Force...she did Sense hans death quite clearly. But so far the hints are that Luke was not in the public eye much after ROTJ, traveling searching for the temples as well as picking up students. Leia focused more on helping to build the New Republic. It wasn't just Kylo's Injury that put him at a disadvantage..his connection to the Force was weakened, evidenced by his inability to call the saber to his hand. The novelization sheds more light, his killing of Han did not have the affect he thought it would...he says he feels weaker.
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Obese Wan Kenobese
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« Reply #1669 on: September 29, 2016, 01:22:22 AM » |
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http://youtu.be/MDYX_PgorRY?t=89She's always known she was his sister? Ewwww!
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ithekro
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« Reply #1670 on: September 29, 2016, 01:27:49 AM » |
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That might have been considered normal behavior for Alderaan's royalty. Blue bloods
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« Reply #1671 on: September 29, 2016, 04:29:02 AM » |
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Random thought: Shouldn't the Millennium Falcon belong to Chewbacca now? Rey was in the captain's chair, but Chewie has a long tenure as the co-pilot. Hell, if Han was to pass it to anyone, I'm sure Chewie would receive his blessing. Rey needs to BTFU and be Chewie's co-pilot.
Also, if Leia also knew, maybe Luke and Leia, ya know.... Pops goes Rey.
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« Reply #1672 on: September 29, 2016, 01:59:03 PM » |
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Random thought: Shouldn't the Millennium Falcon belong to Chewbacca now? Rey was in the captain's chair, but Chewie has a long tenure as the co-pilot. Hell, if Han was to pass it to anyone, I'm sure Chewie would receive his blessing. Rey needs to BTFU and be Chewie's co-pilot.
Also, if Leia also knew, maybe Luke and Leia, ya know.... Pops goes Rey.
Yes! Chewie's always been the star of the movies! Seriously, though, I don't know if Chewie would want to take over captain position or not. But I think if he wanted to he should have first dibs.
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« Reply #1673 on: September 29, 2016, 02:03:36 PM » |
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Random thought: Shouldn't the Millennium Falcon belong to Chewbacca now? Rey was in the captain's chair, but Chewie has a long tenure as the co-pilot. Hell, if Han was to pass it to anyone, I'm sure Chewie would receive his blessing. Rey needs to BTFU and be Chewie's co-pilot.
Also, if Leia also knew, maybe Luke and Leia, ya know.... Pops goes Rey.
Ok. Ummm - EW! Yes! Chewie's always been the star of the movies! Seriously, though, I don't know if Chewie would want to take over captain position or not. But I think if he wanted to he should have first dibs.
Agreed. Move TF over Rey.
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« Reply #1674 on: September 29, 2016, 03:07:58 PM » |
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I think that might have just been a bit of bad dialogue. Perhaps it was supposed to denote that she'd always had a feeling that they were connected. Random thought: Shouldn't the Millennium Falcon belong to Chewbacca now? Rey was in the captain's chair, but Chewie has a long tenure as the co-pilot. Hell, if Han was to pass it to anyone, I'm sure Chewie would receive his blessing. Rey needs to BTFU and be Chewie's co-pilot. Chewie may be a capable co-pilot, but think about it. We've never seen him actually fly. He's always been the assistant. Plus legally, shouldn't ownership fall upon the surviving spouse? ô¿o Also, if Leia also knew, maybe Luke and Leia, ya know.... Pops goes Rey.
Also gross XÞ
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« Reply #1675 on: September 29, 2016, 05:15:54 PM » |
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Chewie may be a capable co-pilot, but think about it. We've never seen him actually fly. He's always been the assistant. Plus legally, shouldn't ownership fall upon the surviving spouse? ô¿o
He did though, in TFA. He was piloting it when he found Rey kneeling down over Finn. Yes, MTFO Rey!
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« Reply #1676 on: September 29, 2016, 06:39:02 PM » |
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Plus legally, shouldn't ownership fall upon the surviving spouse? ô¿o
Seeing as many times as that ship has been stolen, traded, won or lost in card games etc... It's probably really difficult to track who the 'legal' owner is. And yes, provided Han has title and registration for the ship it would legally (assuming their legal system is based on our own) fall to the surviving spouse.
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« Reply #1677 on: September 29, 2016, 06:45:10 PM » |
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He did though, in TFA. He was piloting it when he found Rey kneeling down over Finn. Yes, MTFO Rey!
He pretty much taxied it to the pick up. He didn't navigate anything difficult, or have to out fly enemy ships. Similar to how Boba started up Slave 1 in ATC. And yes, provided Han has title and registration for the ship it would legally (assuming their legal system is based on our own) fall to the surviving spouse.
I could soooooooooo say something as to the parallels I noticed in TFA to things in the real world, but I like being on the forum and do not wish to be expelled for talk of politics.
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« Reply #1678 on: September 29, 2016, 08:20:12 PM » |
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I could soooooooooo say something as to the parallels I noticed in TFA to things in the real world, but I like being on the forum and do not wish to be expelled for talk of politics. Silence, just as much as patience, is a virtue.
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« Reply #1679 on: September 29, 2016, 08:54:34 PM » |
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MAYBE: "Grrrowww. Raaahhrr." (Hey, Rey, wanna practice flying? Take us in for a landing?" "Really? I haven't flown since Finn and I escaped Jakku. I didn't have such an impressive co-pilot then." Or maybe since Rey is the one that feels Luke in the force and had the vision they are following, she took the controls. They followed the map of R2-D2 and BB-8, but then her vision tells them which island to land on. Otherwise, it's "Turn here. No here. Wait, over there maybe?" She likes flying. Chewie is being nice. My mother was irritated, as it felt like they were suggesting Rey just takes Han's place, and everyone moves on. The director was regretful that he had Chewie pass by Leia. Things were sort of quick at the end. And whoever said silence is a virtue was a hypocrite.
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