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« Reply #60 on: September 25, 2018, 07:58:37 PM » |
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I looked at earlier posts in the thread and I think I have an explanation for the Darksaber.
So Tarre Vizsla was the first (and only) Mandalorian Jedi, so I am thinking that if the Sith "Bleed" their crystals to make them red, what if when Tarre was meditating over his crystal, instead of going blue or green, the crystal learned that he was Mandalorian. And it decided that the Mandos were evil and the crystal became black to show its disapproval of an "evil" mando becoming a warrior of the light.
I don't know much of his backstory so I may be wrong about some of those things.
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« Reply #61 on: September 25, 2018, 08:03:16 PM » |
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I looked at earlier posts in the thread and I think I have an explanation for the Darksaber.
So Tarre Vizsla was the first (and only) Mandalorian Jedi, so I am thinking that if the Sith "Bleed" their crystals to make them red, what if when Tarre was meditating over his crystal, instead of going blue or green, the crystal learned that he was Mandalorian. And it decided that the Mandos were evil and the crystal became black to show its disapproval of an "evil" mando becoming a warrior of the light.
I don't know much of his backstory so I may be wrong about some of those things.
I do think it had something to do with Mando mentality, but I wouldn't say Evil. We can thank George for the conundrum of the Darksaber. I do wonder...was The Hilt of Dark saber made from beskar |
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« Reply #62 on: September 25, 2018, 10:03:49 PM » |
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Has there been anything in Canon saying that there cannot be any other crystals? Or is it just that we have yet to see any other ones? Personally I don't have a huge problem with the explanation Disney is giving. But I don't think that they are done. In my personal head-canon there are other crystals that can be used, but by in large, the vast majority of crystals found are Kyber. Some people use Synth, and some (like Windu and Vizla) found a different type of crystal other than Kyber. This is just y personal opinion and head-canon, but from what I've seen/read/heard, there is nothing in Canon saying that there are no other crystals available.
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« Reply #63 on: September 25, 2018, 11:29:35 PM » |
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OK, I'm going to say it. The Darksaber is a stupid plot device. Sorry, it had to be said.  (just my opinion, of course) |
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« Reply #64 on: September 25, 2018, 11:32:49 PM » |
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But it is so cool looking.  |
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« Reply #65 on: September 25, 2018, 11:37:22 PM » |
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I don't even like how it looks. I enjoyed those episodes, but I didn't care for the Darksaber itself. I'd have liked it better if it was a proto saber with an external battery pack and a more normal blade, I think.
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« Reply #66 on: September 25, 2018, 11:41:54 PM » |
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But it is so cool looking. All you gotta do is stick two strips of black electrical insulation tape down either side of your MG or UE blade (180 degees opposite each other) and BINGO! Darksaber blade. And it would be duel-worthy as it isn't a flat acrylic blade! |
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« Reply #67 on: September 26, 2018, 12:23:28 AM » |
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OK, I'm going to say it. The Darksaber is a stupid plot device. Sorry, it had to be said. (just my opinion, of course) Like I said, got Lucas himself to thank for that. It was supposed to be an ancient Vibroblade, but he was insistent only a lightsaber could block another saber. But hey had already done most of the animations. |
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« Reply #68 on: September 26, 2018, 12:44:26 AM » |
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See, I knew he didn't pay attention to his own EU. Cortosis is a lightsaber resistant material (not the only one, but the most common) and it's been firmly established that Cortosis is used in vibroblade construction. It's used specifically to give vibroblades the ability to block lightsabers. In fact, this is a conversation choice early in KOTOR. You're equipping a sword that's of the same type of blade construction as a vibroblade but not quite as strong, and you can ask your companion what happens if your enemies have lightsabers. He replies that the swords have Cortosis, a saber resistant material. Since George didn't invent vibroblades, he could have done a bit of research into them.
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« Reply #69 on: September 26, 2018, 12:58:52 AM » |
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See, I knew he didn't pay attention to his own EU. Cortosis is a lightsaber resistant material (not the only one, but the most common) and it's been firmly established that Cortosis is used in vibroblade construction. It's used specifically to give vibroblades the ability to block lightsabers. In fact, this is a conversation choice early in KOTOR. You're equipping a sword that's of the same type of blade construction as a vibroblade but not quite as strong, and you can ask your companion what happens if your enemies have lightsabers. He replies that the swords have Cortosis, a saber resistant material. Since George didn't invent vibroblades, he could have done a bit of research into them.
he never considered The EU as canon really. Sad to say, Under Disney way more stuff from the EU has made into canon than under George. Beskar was recently brought into canon |
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« Reply #70 on: September 26, 2018, 01:05:08 AM » |
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What were the red guys using in ep8?
Praetorian guards? Vibroblades, right?
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« Reply #71 on: September 26, 2018, 01:43:09 AM » |
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What were the red guys using in ep8?
Praetorian guards? Vibroblades, right?
Basically, yes. What really is jarring is that Lucas had the Magma Guards weapons stopping lightsabers...guess he forgot about those to. |
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« Reply #72 on: September 26, 2018, 01:58:13 AM » |
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Basically, yes. What really is jarring is that Lucas had the Magma Guards weapons stopping lightsabers...guess he forgot about those to.
That’s what I was thinking myself |
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« Reply #73 on: September 26, 2018, 07:34:20 AM » |
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he never considered The EU as canon really. Sad to say, Under Disney way more stuff from the EU has made into canon than under George. Beskar was recently brought into canon
No he did not. He never even read any of the books. Basically, yes. What really is jarring is that Lucas had the Magma Guards weapons stopping lightsabers...guess he forgot about those to.
Yeah, that one is the only one I'm not sure how Lucas would explain. Maybe they created a force field of some sort or something. We've seen force fields block sabers. |
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« Reply #74 on: September 26, 2018, 11:13:20 AM » |
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I'm hoping that Disney are working on more stories and how each color is achieved through their saber canon. Each individual stories would help explain the green Death Star laser, Mace Windu's purple blade and quite a few other colors that exist along with what weapons can fight against a lightsaber. I hope it's just a matter of when and not a matter of if in Disney's case, otherwise, my disappointment in them would grow exponentially. Here's hoping to and a part of me isn't holding my breath.
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