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The_Ronin_Jedi
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« Reply #120 on: March 13, 2014, 12:41:07 AM »

Saber throws seem like they would be a lot more ineffective when the blade isn't so massless.

The difference between throwing an in-universe saber and a real saber seems like the difference between throwing a flashlight and throwing a baseball bat.
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« Reply #121 on: March 13, 2014, 12:42:30 AM »

What he said^^^^^^^^^^^


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« Reply #122 on: March 13, 2014, 01:32:52 AM »

So the first day I had my saber I was fooling around and I swung my guardian and geared myself in the eyebrow. The knuckles and wrists and fingers yep.
And today my brother grabbed my saber in one hand, and spun so the back of his head was to my Jose. At the same time I moved my arm to grab his saber and rammed my elbow into it.
My opinion on the safety equipment. I suspect that had I been wearing some elbow pads nothing would have happened so I cannot disagree with the masters on safety equipment.
I also have to admit that I have none.
Excited to see what you come up with in the way of US protective gear, master Kane.
Another funny story I thought of. PVC pipe covered with water noodles and duct tape makes a relatively safe, sturdy, as a mid grade US blad, and unbalanced weapon. My brother made about a dozen of these and we took them to our family reunion. Anyway massive duel ensued one evening and I was dueling a cousin in law when his saber came towards my face, I leaned back and his saber grazed my face, and I went into a dramatic death. I scared him to death and assured him that I'd just gotten in the wrong mindset. please note that I had just got out of a play with sword fights not too long ago so mostly I was still in the choreography mindset.
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« Reply #123 on: March 13, 2014, 01:35:55 AM »

Perhaps a topic for another thread--but 'sabers might/could/should have mass? Seems to me that collecting and condensing all of those protons would result in added mass.
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« Reply #124 on: March 13, 2014, 02:01:08 AM »

I've had my fair share of knuckles, pinkies, and other hand whacks. One other injury I clearly remember was sustained when staff dueling a friend. I leaned back too far, and knowing I couldn't right myself I just did a very dramatic slo-mo fall, landing hard on my back. Knocked the wind out of me, but as soon as I could breathe, I was laughing me bum off, and he was too. No serious harm, and we were back to dueling shortly thereafter.
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« Reply #125 on: March 13, 2014, 05:28:50 PM »

most grown men refuse to cry until they take a heavy grade blade to the side of the head.
i spar with my bro whose 6-2' 200lbs so you can imagine the bruises that can happpen.

I dont normaly loose as he doesnt have much experience with sabers at the moment. but he makes up for his lack of skill with power.
Hes broken my guard a couple of times to cause me to hit myself with my own staff. head shots hurt the most -both for pain and pride.

Bullet tips leave fat bruises on your torso, hips and shoulders. Ive suffered from one broken finger and bloody knuckles.
even my wife has done that to me before just clowning around. lol


His injuries?
broken pair of glasses - told him not to wear them(although it felt good after he broke my guard once)
Broken finger and a lost thumb nail.
Several lines cross his arms and legs.
i think someone said it already - if youre not hurting youre not learning. with each hit you take you learn a new lesson. i welcome them.
most days we go half speed to help with our dexterity. also its gets embarrassing telling people how we got the latest bruises. he caught hell at work for the thumb nail story. lol
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« Reply #126 on: March 13, 2014, 07:21:54 PM »

This thread is basically reinforcing why you always want to wear protective gear if you're going to do that kind of sparring...
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« Reply #127 on: March 13, 2014, 08:10:57 PM »

Saber throws seem like they would be a lot more ineffective when the blade isn't so massless.

The difference between throwing an in-universe saber and a real saber seems like the difference between throwing a flashlight and throwing a baseball bat.

Not necessarily ineffective, just different.  Also keep in mind that in-universe, Jedi/Sith would be able to grab the saber in flight using the Force to direct its movements. 

As for the throw, it pretty much would be just like throwing a flashlight, which works just fine.  You just have to use a different technique to throw it accurately. 
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« Reply #128 on: March 13, 2014, 08:12:09 PM »

This thread is basically reinforcing why you always want to wear protective gear if you're going to do that kind of sparring...

couldnt agree more Grin
ive purchased forearm and hand protection these days and looking to get my hands on a kendo helmet once we decided to go at it again.
like i said that was how we did it before. We more so do choreography these days.
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« Reply #129 on: March 13, 2014, 11:10:24 PM »


i think someone said it already - if youre not hurting youre not learning. with each hit you take you learn a new lesson. i welcome them.
most days we go half speed to help with our dexterity. also its gets embarrassing telling people how we got the latest bruises. he caught hell at work for the thumb nail story. lol


There's a point where injuries just accumulate, and you pay for it, dearly, later in life. There are no lessons then except progressive debilitation and regrets. Arthritis, neurologic trauma, etc.

You only have one body, please treasure it.
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« Reply #130 on: March 14, 2014, 12:20:47 AM »

There's a point where injuries just accumulate, and you pay for it, dearly, later in life. There are no lessons then except progressive debilitation and regrets. Arthritis, neurologic trauma, etc.

You only have one body, please treasure it.

These aren't concussions, these are just bruises. You can take hundreds and hundreds of bruises and be fine. There's no need to worry.
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« Reply #131 on: March 14, 2014, 12:38:04 AM »

These aren't concussions, these are just bruises. You can take hundreds and hundreds of bruises and be fine. There's no need to worry.
Actually, the bruises can effect you much more detrimentally than the concussions. Every hit you take causes a neurological reaction of protection and compensation. Also, the internal aspect of the injury is completely unseen. A mechanical shyness away from a painful event is not skill. Skill is choosing your target and keeping yourself safe. This is how folks become shambling old people in grocery stores. So many bruises and "minor" injuries and they are no longer functional.

The idea the if you are not hurting you are not learning, is one that I have NEVER seen in actual effect. The opposite is most often true. Most of the people the show up on my door with such an attitude get hit lots when they try it with people who have been training or keeps (in armor). Just my experience.

But, reckless behavior is sexy. Getting bruises and showing off your wounds is sexy. Hard to compete with that. But I prefer to armor up and give it my all. Keeps me challenged. I'm too old for "sexy".
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« Reply #132 on: March 14, 2014, 12:44:47 AM »

These aren't concussions, these are just bruises. You can take hundreds and hundreds of bruises and be fine. There's no need to worry.

Broken fingers and bruised knuckles. Sequelae of these include joint inflammation, which increases likelihood of any of a number of arthritic diseases later in life. Rheumatologic damage is not fine. Especially since the vast majority of us depend on our hands to some degree for a living. Please don't make light of such things.
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« Reply #133 on: March 14, 2014, 12:55:39 AM »

Actually, the bruises can effect you much more detrimentally than the concussions. Every hit you take causes a neurological reaction of protection and compensation. Also, the internal aspect of the injury is completely unseen. A mechanical shyness away from a painful event is not skill. Skill is choosing your target and keeping yourself safe. This is how folks become shambling old people in grocery stores. So many bruises and "minor" injuries and they are no longer functional.

The idea the if you are not hurting you are not learning, is one that I have NEVER seen in actual effect. The opposite is most often true. Most of the people the show up on my door with such an attitude get hit lots when they try it with people who have been training or keeps (in armor). Just my experience.

But, reckless behavior is sexy. Getting bruises and showing off your wounds is sexy. Hard to compete with that. But I prefer to armor up and give it my all. Keeps me challenged. I'm too old for "sexy".
Broken fingers and bruised knuckles. Sequelae of these include joint inflammation, which increases likelihood of any of a number of arthritic diseases later in life. Rheumatologic damage is not fine. Especially since the vast majority of us depend on our hands to some degree for a living. Please don't make light of such things.
Too add to these things getting whacked on the head and having a seizure isn't cool either. This has not happened but since reading thru these posts it is something I have thought of. Seizures are not a laughing matter They are dangerous. I have scared my siblings by groaning while stretching, by tensing up a bit. I will point out that I need to invest in protective gear but I would prefer to make an informed decision.
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« Reply #134 on: March 14, 2014, 01:23:07 AM »

Actually, the bruises can effect you much more detrimentally than the concussions. Every hit you take causes a neurological reaction of protection and compensation. Also, the internal aspect of the injury is completely unseen. A mechanical shyness away from a painful event is not skill. Skill is choosing your target and keeping yourself safe. This is how folks become shambling old people in grocery stores. So many bruises and "minor" injuries and they are no longer functional.

The idea the if you are not hurting you are not learning, is one that I have NEVER seen in actual effect. The opposite is most often true. Most of the people the show up on my door with such an attitude get hit lots when they try it with people who have been training or keeps (in armor). Just my experience.

Exactly, it is a reaction of protection and compensation. The body reacts in such a way that it attempts to heal it self so that the body feels less and less pain. It is probably similar to why your hands get calloused when you do work. The body is learning from the pain by altering itself to compensate in such a way that overall benefits the body. Secondly, as you mentioned, the instinct to dislike pain will allow a person to attempt to be more vigilant of that part of the body. If I hit your side with enough force to cause pain, you will attempt to keep me from hitting you there, which in effect, is teaching you to block my attacks so you don't get hurt.

But, reckless behavior is sexy. Getting bruises and showing off your wounds is sexy. Hard to compete with that. But I prefer to armor up and give it my all. Keeps me challenged. I'm too old for "sexy".

If reckless behavior was so sexy, then many of my actions should have gotten me farther in a relationship, not farther away from one.
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