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Master Lucien Kane
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« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2012, 09:37:00 PM »

holy crap 200 dollars for just the robe. there would be no way i could get that. my mom wouldnt let me get 200 dollars worth of sewn fabric.


The costume maker I know is pretty affordable, I'm just saying, this would be custom robes to go with these armor sets... If I end up making the robes to go with them it will likely be much cheaper... But this is a lot of custom fabrication to begin with... I'm basically designing this all myself, but trust me affordability is going to be paramount second only to durability.
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« Reply #31 on: March 15, 2012, 12:21:47 AM »

but trust me affordability is going to be paramount second only to durability.


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« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2012, 11:37:47 AM »

I would be very interested in this, it is something that I have been pondering as well....I'm into medieval reenactment fighting, not the pretty stuff, more of the b@ll$ and all type, and I collect wearable, functional armour as well.  I have used formed ABS plastic years ago, and I did find that with a layer of 1/4 foam glued directly underneath that plates, it did absorb a lot of the blows.  However, it does create a hell of a stink as has been mentioned, you don't want to be breathing it in too much.  This was using SCA rattan weapons, wielded with Sithy fury:P
I am looking forward to seeing your progress with devising kata as well...I am no martial artist, in the asian-based variety, but I train in a wide variety of styles, ranging from medieval combat to Filipino stick fighting, so seeing the work you are putting into saber wielding as a formal style is inspiring me to train harder and get my trainer, who is a long-time martial artist, to help me with them.  I have tried kata in the past...I suck at it:P  But this...this I feel a kinship with and inspiration for.  This is what I ma loving about this hobby...it's actually practical, we can take something from the realms of make believe, and make it real, hard, and challenging.
PS...If you ever do come to Australia, you don't have to duel for the spare bed...if you help me with technique, you most welcome to stay hehe!
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« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2012, 05:44:14 PM »

I would be very interested in this, it is something that I have been pondering as well....I'm into medieval reenactment fighting, not the pretty stuff, more of the b@ll$ and all type, and I collect wearable, functional armour as well.  I have used formed ABS plastic years ago, and I did find that with a layer of 1/4 foam glued directly underneath that plates, it did absorb a lot of the blows.  However, it does create a hell of a stink as has been mentioned, you don't want to be breathing it in too much.  This was using SCA rattan weapons, wielded with Sithy fury:P
I am looking forward to seeing your progress with devising kata as well...I am no martial artist, in the asian-based variety, but I train in a wide variety of styles, ranging from medieval combat to Filipino stick fighting, so seeing the work you are putting into saber wielding as a formal style is inspiring me to train harder and get my trainer, who is a long-time martial artist, to help me with them.  I have tried kata in the past...I suck at it:P  But this...this I feel a kinship with and inspiration for.  This is what I ma loving about this hobby...it's actually practical, we can take something from the realms of make believe, and make it real, hard, and challenging.
PS...If you ever do come to Australia, you don't have to duel for the spare bed...if you help me with technique, you most welcome to stay hehe!

lol Thanks! I have been slacking off, on getting the sequences done, but I will get back on it soon. ABS worked huh?
That is good to know, what were you using on it? and how hard were you hitting the ABS?

I may take you up on that offer someday.
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« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2012, 10:58:46 AM »

I am female, so we heat formed a 4 piece breast and back plate by pressing the hot, malleable ABS plastic over a hockey breast protector plate, and cutting tucks where the ABS folded over itself, like tucks in sewing.  We then glued 1/4 inch close cell foam on the inside of it to absorb shock, and it worked a treat...I took blows that knocked the wind from my lungs, but it never truly felt painful.  For my limbs, I used 12-14 ounce leather with splints of ABS riveted to the inside of the plates and the foam glued to the splints, again it work really well.  We were using SCA rattan weapons at the time...I think they were 1-1/4 thick, and very solid.  And we played rough:)  Now, when I duel with foam, carbon fibre core weapons...I don't use ABS or padding at the moment, and believe me...I have the battle scars to prove it lol!
I favour the hard outer plate armour with foam or padded gambeson/vest etc underneath for good solid protection.  The hard outer protects against possible skin splits (although...saber dueling scars, I could live with that:P) and the padding dissipates the blunt force trauma.  I like leather with the ABS plates and splints for looks as well, you can do really nice paint/dye colours and patterns on the two materials, and the leather is comfy and will form to the body a little.  Leather base..ABS plates and rivets = struttin', stylin, Sith:)  And maybe Jedi too....grumble... Also, ifyou get into wet forming and hardening leather...then you have some very durable, versatile material.
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« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2012, 12:00:08 PM »

I am female, so we heat formed a 4 piece breast and back plate by pressing the hot, malleable ABS plastic over a hockey breast protector plate, and cutting tucks where the ABS folded over itself, like tucks in sewing.  We then glued 1/4 inch close cell foam on the inside of it to absorb shock, and it worked a treat...I took blows that knocked the wind from my lungs, but it never truly felt painful.  For my limbs, I used 12-14 ounce leather with splints of ABS riveted to the inside of the plates and the foam glued to the splints, again it work really well.  We were using SCA rattan weapons at the time...I think they were 1-1/4 thick, and very solid.  And we played rough:)  Now, when I duel with foam, carbon fibre core weapons...I don't use ABS or padding at the moment, and believe me...I have the battle scars to prove it lol!
I favour the hard outer plate armour with foam or padded gambeson/vest etc underneath for good solid protection.  The hard outer protects against possible skin splits (although...saber dueling scars, I could live with that:P) and the padding dissipates the blunt force trauma.  I like leather with the ABS plates and splints for looks as well, you can do really nice paint/dye colours and patterns on the two materials, and the leather is comfy and will form to the body a little.  Leather base..ABS plates and rivets = struttin', stylin, Sith:)  And maybe Jedi too....grumble... Also, ifyou get into wet forming and hardening leather...then you have some very durable, versatile material.

Wet forming leather is such a cool process... I need to learn, I just have no teacher lol. So this is really good information to know.

I guess I'm going to have to rope my wife into being my female model for the set of armor for the ladies... I keep forgetting I need to make a set that's friendly for those with breasts. Hmm so that's 4 sets of armor I need to make off the bat... Hmm, guess I better get cracking.... Now where am I going to find a lady willing to test the armor for us... Skiorh, come to America and spar with me so you can test my armor out lol
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« Reply #36 on: March 16, 2012, 12:18:52 PM »

Oohh..If I could....I soooo would.  Any excuse to get all dressed up and play:P  You don't exactly need "boobies" on the breastplates, but we do need a little room to tuck 'em away.  A slightly extended pec region works well I have found.  I don't usually favour the breasty look myself, but the one breastplate that I have with molded cups is soooo comfortable, and supportive:)
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« Reply #37 on: March 16, 2012, 01:38:22 PM »

Wet forming leather is easy with the right leather.  Veg tanned leather will release the tanning agent when made wet, creating an almost clay like quality. Once dry it holds that shape...just avoid rain.

Best to seal the leather with water beading agents such as dry wax.
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« Reply #38 on: March 16, 2012, 05:56:43 PM »

Oohh..If I could....I soooo would.  Any excuse to get all dressed up and play:P  You don't exactly need "boobies" on the breastplates, but we do need a little room to tuck 'em away.  A slightly extended pec region works well I have found.  I don't usually favour the breasty look myself, but the one breastplate that I have with molded cups is soooo comfortable, and supportive:)


I was thining about something that looks kind of like Shae Vizla from TOR



Jedi Relmeob, that is good to know, you have some useful knowledge sir.
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« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2012, 12:57:12 AM »

Spent the last 46yrs filling my head with various service skills and working my hands with many different disciplines...my brain works 24/7, gotta take meds to get any sleep...so I am always emptying the cup and filling it back up with something new.

I found out about leather when I was making Venetian style masquerade /carnivale masks.  I took a job to make a dozen before I ever made one...had to learn quick  lol.

The leather is easy to work with.
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« Reply #40 on: March 17, 2012, 09:48:24 AM »

Spent the last 46yrs filling my head with various service skills and working my hands with many different disciplines...my brain works 24/7, gotta take meds to get any sleep...so I am always emptying the cup and filling it back up with something new.

I found out about leather when I was making Venetian style masquerade /carnivale masks.  I took a job to make a dozen before I ever made one...had to learn quick  lol.

The leather is easy to work with.

I've seen some amazing works of art with molded leather. I need to try this at some point.
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« Reply #41 on: March 17, 2012, 02:18:28 PM »

I found a decent vlog of a mask maker...the process is the same for armor bits

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« Reply #42 on: March 17, 2012, 04:54:49 PM »

The costume maker I know is pretty affordable, I'm just saying, this would be custom robes to go with these armor sets... If I end up making the robes to go with them it will likely be much cheaper... But this is a lot of custom fabrication to begin with... I'm basically designing this all myself, but trust me affordability is going to be paramount second only to durability.
oh ok 200 dollars for a robe and armor would be fine i guess i miss understood. still looking forward to seeing this done
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« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2012, 09:52:25 AM »

I got a leather guy, but he has a strange way of softening the leather.
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« Reply #44 on: March 24, 2012, 10:41:05 AM »

It rubs the lotion on it's skin....or it gets smacked by the saber again!!
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