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At last, the masterpiece I ordered from Ultrasabers has arrived.  I don't think I can adequately describe the fervor with which I snatched this saber from the UPS guy... pretty sure I sprinted down the stairs when I heard him, and sported a massive and idiotic grin.

Oh well.

This initial review is not gonna be detailed.  I apologize for that, but let's face it - I'm WAY too excited about this thing to sit down and write out a thoughtful analysis of it.  I do plan to do a video review, both to share the saber with you all and snatch some review points, so you can expect that sometime.

Let's call this "initial impressions" then!

I'm not sure what my first thought was, since it was likely an unintelligible jumble of excited syllables.  Once I managed to contain (somewhat) my child-like glee, I pressed that lovely AV switch and ignited the saber for the first time.  "That color... it's perfect."  Emerald is the only way I can describe it, and considering that's what I was going for it's spot on PERFECT.  I'll give you a bit of backstory on this - a long time ago (not really, but it seems that way) there was an awesome dude on here known as Darth Wraith.  Some of you know him from back then, others have only heard legends.  He resurfaced recently, but hasn't fully returned (yet).  Anyway, he had this idea to make a Jacen Solo / Darth Caedus inspired hilt using a MR Vader ESB and a Lux V Cyan LED, being as Jacen's saber is often described as "emerald".  He used this picture as a basis for the hilt choice:

(http://www.sffaudio.com/images08/starwarslegacyoftheforcebetrayal500.jpg)

For those of you who don't know, the older Luxeon LEDs had varying "bins" which produced different shades of colors.  Cyan had 6 bins, with Bin 1 being a sort of light blue (Arctic Blue would be a rough estimate) and Bin 6 being essentially green.  He recommended a Bin 3, which is a nice mix of both, and so I set out on my mission to build such a saber.  Along the line I changed my mind, shying away from the unwieldy MR hilt (which I did buy and found to be somewhat bulky) and finally deciding to go with a Dark Prophecy.  I emailed Deep asking him if he would be willing to use an LED I sent in for the build, a Lux V Cyan Bin 3 I picked up, and he quickly responded that it would be no problem.  Very excited, I sent it in and ordered the saber.

A few days later, to my utter shock, I received notification that my saber was shipped.  Whaaaaat?  How?  I'm fairly certain the folks at Ultrasabers use some kind of magic, otherwise such things aren't possible.  I digress though.

Sadly living on the other side of the country I have to wait around a week for my sabers to arrive (though I feel for our European members who must be possessed of incredible patience), but soon afterwards I managed to secure my hilt.  With no further ado, here are a couple basic pics I snapped:

Lights off:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8426/7876269704_0c1ecec523.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63659933@N04/7876269704/)

Lights on:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8294/7876269258_9e9a7cc5b4.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63659933@N04/7876269258/)

They're in my kitchen, as you can probably tell, but in truth that was the only surface I could find to adequately show off the beautiful anodized hilt.  I love it!  The thing handles like a dream too, simple enough to be a solid combat saber but detailed enough to show off.  It's relatively compact so it functions nicely as a single hander - this may be my new go-to dueler!  All in all, it's a fantastic hilt and I'm gonna stop writing now to go play with it more... so that alone should say something about it.

Thanks for reading Saberforum, and THANK YOU ULTRASABERS for providing me with yet another excellent lightsaber!

More pics, video, and analysis to come...

Congrats man! She's a beaut!

Awesome man glad you finally got a Jacen hilt. :)

Thanks guys!  I was VERY excited about this one, not only because of the theme or the hilt itself, but mainly due to the fact that I essentially have a custom color on it.  I actually ordered it with an Ultraedge blade, and I have to say I really like it!  They cut it down to 34" like I requested, so that gives me a nice length in between the full size 36" and shorter 32".  VERY good to wield, although if you try to do too much emitter grabbing (as I tend to do) the gold knobs kinda get in the way.

Honestly though, that's a miniscule price to pay for such an attractive and functional lightsaber.  I am really looking forward to dueling with this guy, and hopefully getting a video review up soon.

Nice saber. Looks really nice. Though in the Jacen pic his saber seems to be yellow. Glad you got you're saber. =]

That is a wonderfully color for your hilt! And the green AV switch really set is off nicely! Very nice!

I know right?  It does have that yellow tinge, which is funny because I've definitely seen the color called emerald... even Wookieepedia says so!

It's a little more spot on when you look at pics like these:

(http://www.starwars-universe.com/images/encyclopedie/DF/JacenSolo01.jpg)

(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071206005043/starwars/images/5/5f/SoloTwins_EGttF.jpg)

Regardless, I'm mostly just happy that I have a new and unique shade of green... we all know how much I love green lightsabers!



Thanks man, I really do like this AV switch on it.  The fact that they're not the same shade of green would probably bother most people, but I actually like it... it shows how unique the blade color is IMO.

The chick looks awesome. Who is she? wonder if an Ultra Saber in her style will ever be made. The Prophecy could be Jacen's style.

She is awesome, it's his twin sister Jaina.  It's funny because I see a lot of pics with her and a blue saber, but it always describes it as purple in the books.  They do it with Anakin too on occassion...

Illustrations rarely agree. lol

That is AWESOME Nero! If the color difference between in person and photos is the same degree as with SRD, that color has to be epic. Congrats!

Very nice Master nero! I look forward to seeing this saber put to use in some combat/training videos.  8)

It looks quite amazing, congrats.


This is spot on of what my sunriders destiny looks like, a long long time ago at an ultrasabers far far away... anyways back in the day SRD was made from a Luxeon III led and I really think that it was a bin 3 cyan, I could be mistaken by the exact bin# but your pic looks just like my SRD Anakin to a T, anyway they stopped using the bin ?#? cyan and thus stopped carrying SRD for a while back in 09  and went to work on what we now have with the rgb color mix, that is back when it became a forum only color until they at last perfected it to what they wanted SRD to look like.

great looking hilt, Seen Jacen Solo and had to check it out. 
again great hilt and can't wait to see a video

Very cool Nero. Love that hilt. Glad you got your Jacen saber.

QQ:  Will you go for the Darth Caedus saber after this one to complete your Jacen Solo collection?

Love that saber.  Your creativity certainly paid off. 

Ah, good question!  We'll have to see... I'm not really sure if there's as much information on it.  Still, it's worth a try!

I'm glad you guys all like it, because I really do too.  I am looking forward to using it more, I'll have to get the gf to do a bit of dueling tomorrow night.  I was thinking of making a Makashi video or two anyway, so it'll surely come in handy.

Nero where did you find the emitter and what exactly were the specs?  I tried googling for them as I am looking for various reds (You know my desire for a ruby saber)  but have yet to find any.

In Legacy they never really say what Darth Cadeus's lightsaber looks like......from what I gathered in the story it mentions he was building one from scratch....pls correct me if I am wrong......I wish there could have been more details on it...would have loved to have had a mental picture of it....

Sorry, I don't quite understand your question.  Did you mean the emitter for my Prophecy?  Because that one doesn't have a removable emitter.  As for different reds, there are Deep Red LEDs such as LEDengine and Lux Rebel Star... I'll let you know if that comes out ruby when I get it!


Agreed, I haven't read up to that yet but I do find they give rather little detail on most hilts.  Heck, the only thing I could go off with this one was cover illustrations!

I was wondering just what store/site you found the Lux V Cyan Bin 3 I could not for the life of me find a seller of anything along those lines.

Yeah sadly the Lux V models aren't in production any longer, unless I'm mistaken.  I'll look around and see if I can find any sources, and PM you if I find something.

Seriously though, for that ruby color you might want to look into the Deep Red LED.  They have them at TCSS, and from what I've seen they appear to be less orange-tinted (which strikes me as more "ruby").

Master Nero be WARNED.....The Legacy series was like Crack....Very addicted and you just want MORE....I had jumped in at Sacrifice and was hooked from that point on.....the decent of Jacen Solo was just mind boggling and to see how powerful Luke Skywalker has become as the Grand Master ....WOW!  I need to sit down and start at book one and re read these.....The only other series that held my attention this much was the Darth Bane books......

Agreed, I just finished Tempest and I'm craving more... it's so bad lol

On another note, I used this hilt in my recent Makashi vid, made a thread here if anyone is interested:

http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=8800.msg130125#msg130125 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=8800.msg130125#msg130125)

I hate to double post, but I just love this hilt so much I have to...

I was looking up the color Emerald on Wikipedia, and I found a pic of an Emerald stone that just matched this blade color perfectly:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Gachala_Emerald_3526711557_849c4c7367.jpg/640px-Gachala_Emerald_3526711557_849c4c7367.jpg)

I just figured I'd share it to both verify my claims that this is a true Emerald Green and give you a better idea of the color (since we all know cameras aren't a good judge of these things).

Funny how I prefer an Ultraedge blade on it too... typically I love the regular midgrades, but the UE just gives it such a perfect greenish hue that I can't use anything else.

That's freakin' awesome, Nero! You have no idea how jealous I am! Hopefully someday I can get an Obsidian saber with a more green SRD.

Anyway, we want more pictures of this beauty! (or at least me...)

Yup I agree , Its an awsome color! So much so I have The led coming for my Overlord! This was an excellent find Nero, I cant wait to see the color in person.

I've been eyeing the Prophecy as a stunt saber. My Overlord and Shock are very much my showy, take to events sabers, but so far it's my Liberator I use for serious freestyle and dueling. I think it's a combination of classical fencing training and only being 5'4", but the larger sabers don't feel right in my hands for true fighting. Your Makashi video made me curious...does it make a good fencing hilt? As much as I love my Obsidian, two hours of the hum does get to me not to mention the batteries. And since none of the people I spar with have it, it seems a little show off too. I almost bought a second Libby, but it would be fun to have a new hilt. I am concerned, though, that like the Overlord and Shock, the Prophecy will join the "play" collection instead of the "work" collection.

My personal opinion of this hilt is that it makes a very nice balance between elegance and functionality.  IMO it's pretty enough to display, but in terms of balance and size makes a VERY useful dueling hilt.  In fact, apart from the color that's the reason I love this thing so much - it's relatively short (11"), lightweight, and slim enough to match my Initiate V3 for Makashi style dueling.  I think you'd really like it!


I'm looking forward to seeing yours!  I think you'll like it, it's quite unique.


I'll have to put some more up!  And let us know if you do order that more green SRD, I think it would turn out really well.

It looks very, very nice.  My first Ultrasaber is going to be Dark Prophecy with SRD.  I'm also going to add either a green or a blue color disk to increase effect.  Hopefully it looks as good as this one!

Been thinking of getting the exact same one.
Prophecy/Dark Prophecy seems to be a perfectly balanced saber, combined With Emerald green it looks perfect

This makes me want a SRD Dark Prophecy now. Lol. SRD has become one of my favorite US colors. Plus finding the right green filter will do the trick. For Apollo filters if anyone knows, which green should I use to get kind of Emerald Green? haven't found a good one yet.

Very, very happy for you. I think the dark prophecy was the way to go.

on that, do you think ultrasabers will ever do a hybrid of dark emitter & shroud, light neck, dark activation area, light spacer & dark grip? Is that even possible with the way they're made?

My guess is that it's possible - it'd be similar to the gold trim on some 'sabres, for example, just much more intensive.

They used to do just that, with the Dark Prophecy LE:

(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1133/fullhilt.jpg)

I'm assuming that's what you're talking about?  I was planning on customizing my saber to look like that, but I love it so much now I could hardly think of digging into the anodizing...

Haha, looks like i Made an Old thread active again.. :P

Oh my! I WANT THAT SO BAD! hehe I wonder if they'd do that to order, as a custom?

Or maybe request it if possible? It never hurts to revive old threads as long as the mods are okay with it. :P I do wish US would do a Dark Prophecy V3 LE though.

I am SO glad this was revived! This is easily my favorite Ultrasaber creation of all time! Haha I've been searching for the same LED but I can't seem to find it.  ::)

Man, that really is a beautiful saber.

Thanks man!

Yeah, necroposting as a general idea isn't the best, but when it's one of the Mod's personal favorite review threads it tends to slip by unpunished ;)  I seriously love this saber, so in this case I'll actually thank you guys for bringing this thread back to life.  I just used it the other night to duel with my fiancee, the balance is just exquisite.

I can imagine! I have a Prophecy V2 and it just feels right in my hand, like a natural extension of my arm. I used to think it was weird, especially with a one-handed grip, but then I grew to love it and prefer it over my other sabers. Some may say the Overlord is Ultrasaber's best, but I think the Prophecy fits that title better. It really encompasses everything Ultrasabers is about.

It's certainly one of the most well rounded, and most successful.  I mean it's detailed enough to be a great showpiece, but simple enough to function perfectly as a battle saber.  Also, when you consider how great a job they did scaling it from a V2 to a V3 (you're talking only a half inch longer and no wider AT ALL), it's mind boggling.  I say everyone should have one!

Agreed! And that's surprising that the V3 isn't thicker. I knew it was longer, but I didn't know it was the same width. That's pretty cool! Don't you just love the fluted grips also? I thought they would feel weird, but they really are very comfortable.

Haha man, I could go on about my Prophecy all day! I like all of my other sabers for different reasons, and they're all pretty good, but my Prophecy really is where it's at. If I had to choose one saber it would be that one.

I feel the same way.  If I had to stride into battle with one lightsaber hilt, my Dark Prophecy V3 would be at my side for sure.

How appropriate that this thread be resurrected, eh Nero?  ;D 8).  Enjoy it man!

Hehe, I managed to snag one myself but it won't be for another 4-12 weeks; it's getting the full treatment minus a bargraph!

Congrats on an excellent addition to your collection Master Nero. Point for expanded universe reference

Why do they not sell this one anymore? I love this design! :o

I agree, it's a great design!  You could do the same yourself (which is what I was planning to do before I fell in love with the hilt as-is) with some filing.  The anodizing is tough, but it will come off with a little elbow grease.  Let me know if you make the attempt, I'd be very curious to see the results!

Is it a necropost so much as a renewed call to see this awesome saber re-enter US's lineup? Knowing more about these sabers than I did when I first saw this thread, I find it's more interesting to me now than it was when I first saw it. It would be nice to see the LE return for sure. Hopefully this revived thread will stir up some ideas...  ;)

This must have been the First EG saber. Also this saber was my inspiration for getting an EG MLS for my saber!

Excellent!  It was definitely what got the ball rolling as far as the color goes, I believe RLYHYPERGUY ended up contacting Deep to find out if it could be done with an RGB LED and that was what created the new color.  I'm not sure how this one compares to the Ultrasabers version of Emerald Green, but based on the pictures and descriptions it seems like a good match.

This is still my favorite saber, especially for combat.  Seriously, anyone looking for a compact battle-ready hilt should try out the Prophecy line.

This seems to be becoming the popular saber again. Lol. For you anyway. If Emerald Green becomes a regular color in the future I will be getting it on something. Maybe a regular Shock.

I think, with my recent interest in Jacen and the Dark Prophecy, a DP with EG LED may have to put my emerald plans aside for now.
So thank you, Nero :)

Wondering how EG would last on a standard battery set up. Probably about the same as SRD since its the same LED basically just set up different.

You would be correct.  The only difference would be that the blade will go Consular Green as the Blue die is more heavily resistored than the CG.  In SRD, you got 50/50.  At least with my blade, that is how it goes.  Half the time when my batteries are dying, the blade goes blue and the other half it goes green. 

So basically the same thing then. Cool. My SRD isn't really effected in any way.

Beautiful saber, Nero! Very nice!

As for the Prophecy, I already liked the hilt to begin with. The "Dark Prophecy" is also a slick looking hilt. Very Vader like. Would be nice to see US start making it again.

Again, kick @$$ saber, Nero!

I've been hoping for the LE Proph to come back too, but now with the release of the Emerald board and seeing that it won't fit into a Prophecy with sound, I'm over it.  :)

Next saber will be an Emerald with Obsidian for sure.

Well this hilt (Dark Prophecy) has my attention gripped! It'd probably only be a stunt, but I'm seriously considering it for my next saber. Colour of blade is a quandry though. As a Sith, I'd probably want to go Pyrestone Orange, but I'm tempted by either Emerald Green or Sunriders Destiny.

Any thoughts?

I really like the contrast between black and greens like CG , Emerald, and Sun Riders Destiny - well black contrasts well with just about anything now that I think about it ... I am of no help now !!! Run away !

I love black and green together, I've got CG on my Dark Monarch. It gives the green an almost acidic look

I'm glad to see I am not alone in my taste!  Didn't realize how much I loved the green on dark hilts until I got this baby...

Arkanus, you may be well suited to Pyrestone... but this hilt is just awesome in green.  Plus I don't think you even own any Jedi colors... this could be your "undercover Sith" hilt lol

Lol In that case I have three "undercover Sith" sabers already.  DVA is kind of sith but it could be jedi as well.

This is true, though the more token Jedi colors are blue and green.  Depends on how undercover you want to go!

Hmmmm, I'm not sure but I feel like the lightside is tempting me. (a strange reversal wouldn't you say?) I am just curious whether to go the prophecy route, or perhaps even shock LE.

What would the path of a redeemed Darksider be in the Jedi I wonder?

Personally, I would think that a redeemed Dark Sider would seek to follow a path of helping others....something along the lines of medical/Consular/diplomatic.

Well medical is definitely not my thing, possibly consular is what I was thinking. Though darksiders have a natural talent for the ickier part of things, which is more sentinel territory I guess.

My vote is always for Prophecy!

So how about blade length and weight or a balancing pommel? I don't know how light a dark prophecy would be, but I wouldn't want a very blade heavy saber, especially for Makashi.

The Dark Prophecy is pretty light, especially as a stunt, so you may want to go with a lightweight blade (mid grade perhaps).  I use the regular pommel with a 36 inch mid grade, but it depends on the balance you like.  Also keep in mind that I have sound... so a heavier pommel may be beneficial for you.

All very good points. I'm thinking about trying to keep costs down, but we shall see what sort of money I can scare up! hehe

Pommel-wise I'd like something heavier than the standard "hole in the bottom" one, but still fairly low profile, so I'll have to look at what's available.

Manticore high or low, Overlord, Raven plain, or Malice square pommels would all look good on a Prophecy.