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« Reply #345 on: August 26, 2012, 07:50:27 PM » |
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Celestia evil...I don't know about evil but she can be a bit nightmare moonish. 
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« Reply #346 on: August 26, 2012, 07:54:15 PM » |
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Celestia evil...I don't know about evil but she can be a bit nightmare moonish.  Mostly, people think of her as evil because of how she is portrayed outside of canon - Trollestia, Molestia (not forum-safe to discuss), and Tyrant Celestia. Personally, I think she's awesome  She and Cadance are both underrated, in my most humble opinion.
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« Reply #347 on: August 26, 2012, 07:55:35 PM » |
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 I love this one! 
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« Reply #348 on: August 26, 2012, 09:03:40 PM » |
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Mostly, people think of her as evil because of how she is portrayed outside of canon - Trollestia, Molestia (not forum-safe to discuss), and Tyrant Celestia. Personally, I think she's awesome  She and Cadance are both underrated, in my most humble opinion. Hmm... Celestia is definitely one of the more complex FiM characters (well, not explicitly - but if she has emotions like any other pony [and since Luna has been showed to, I think that it is logical to say Celestia does as well] the fact can easily be extrapolated). Imagine how guilty she must have felt after banishing Luna to the moon - even if she had no other choice. (In my opinion, Celestia couldn't really control what the Elements of Harmony would do once she unleashed them. And having to watch her loyal subjects grow old and die while she does not (again, in my personal canon the Elements are what grant her such longevity, so with the unnatural state of having her youth magically extended the sight would be doubly difficult to bear). The way she treats Twilight and her friends (while the Mane 6, being the new Bearers of the Elements and thus likely the future rulers of Equestria, are a special case) indicates she most likely had subjects she especially cared for before; it must have been devastating to her when they died, especially during earlier centuries of her reign. Where was I going with this? Oh, yes, I suppose that she simply has to deal with her unique status - and one way to do that (as well as relate to her subjects) is through the humor and practical jokes that the brony community at large has blown out of proportion. So, in short, I must agree with you, SOTJ. Princess Celestia is much maligned by many bronies without real reason. I have come to be rather attached to her as a character.
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« Reply #349 on: August 26, 2012, 10:06:20 PM » |
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Yeah, I agree. Though I haven't really seen many people portraying her as outright "evil". Trollestia and Molestia aren't exactly nice, but aren't really evil either, if you think about it. She's lived and ruled for at least a thousand years, that's gotta take a toll on one's mind. I really like her as a character. But Luna is still best princess, though 
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« Reply #350 on: August 27, 2012, 02:42:22 AM » |
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This discussion reminds me of this poster:  Hmm... Celestia is definitely one of the more complex FiM characters (well, not explicitly - but if she has emotions like any other pony [and since Luna has been showed to, I think that it is logical to say Celestia does as well] the fact can easily be extrapolated). Imagine how guilty she must have felt after banishing Luna to the moon - even if she had no other choice. (In my opinion, Celestia couldn't really control what the Elements of Harmony would do once she unleashed them. And having to watch her loyal subjects grow old and die while she does not (again, in my personal canon the Elements are what grant her such longevity, so with the unnatural state of having her youth magically extended the sight would be doubly difficult to bear). The way she treats Twilight and her friends (while the Mane 6, being the new Bearers of the Elements and thus likely the future rulers of Equestria, are a special case) indicates she most likely had subjects she especially cared for before; it must have been devastating to her when they died, especially during earlier centuries of her reign.
Where was I going with this? Oh, yes, I suppose that she simply has to deal with her unique status - and one way to do that (as well as relate to her subjects) is through the humor and practical jokes that the brony community at large has blown out of proportion. So, in short, I must agree with you, SOTJ. Princess Celestia is much maligned by many bronies without real reason. I have come to be rather attached to her as a character.
I hate how exaggerated her prankster side has become in the fandom. She obviously doesn't dislike tea, she just wanted to have some fun and lighten the mood. It's possible that Twilight reminded her of Luna as a filly. Geez, the more I think about it, the more I feel bad for Celestia....  Now she seems more like much more of a tragic character. http://img.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/tdomf/385800/__you_remind_me_of_someone______by_rizcifra-d3iiic6.png(link posted because the image is large and should be left that way) Then again, imagine being stuck on the moon for 1,000 years while your friends died off.... okay, Luna still has more of my sympathy. 
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« Reply #351 on: August 27, 2012, 11:02:24 AM » |
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Yes - Luna and Celestia both have significant tragic heroine elements (for Luna, for example, think Edmund from Narnia). I suppose, with the fall and redemption, Luna's elements are more pronounced; but she seems to have dealt with them at least as well anyway.
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« Reply #352 on: August 27, 2012, 06:34:28 PM » |
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« Reply #353 on: August 28, 2012, 01:34:20 AM » |
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I had to give you a point for the Darth Vader watching MLP. Reminded me of me.
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« Reply #354 on: August 28, 2012, 03:14:38 AM » |
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I had to give you a point for the Darth Vader watching MLP. Reminded me of me.
Thank ya  I'm not too big on any the memes that erupted after TDKR was released, but I found this one amusing because it made Celestia's face appear quite evil (whereas she looked mostly serene in the original image): 
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« Reply #355 on: August 28, 2012, 02:00:24 PM » |
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I just watched Luna Eclipsed and I think I have a new best friend...
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« Reply #356 on: August 28, 2012, 02:57:32 PM » |
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I just watched Luna Eclipsed and I think I have a new best friend...
Let me guess..... ME?! 
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« Reply #357 on: August 28, 2012, 02:59:34 PM » |
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Yes, you, Luna. Remember what I told you. Keep your voice low. People wiltst like thee more.
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« Reply #358 on: August 28, 2012, 11:45:46 PM » |
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« Reply #359 on: August 29, 2012, 02:51:49 AM » |
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