Time for the Logos Post-Weekend Catch-up Post.
IF these turn out to be true it will both excite me and make me sad...much like the Mando has done already. Because this epic show leads into a crap future.
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OMG!!!!!!
Agreed. I love it when I'm right. Rosario Dawson had the absolute perfect face for this character at this age. But..................#$%&-up Filoni does it again. I'm beginning to think he has a fetish for early teen Togruta.
Ahsoka circa early TCW
Ahsoka circa mid TCW
Ahsoka circa late TCW
And Ahsoka circa SWR
Anybody noticing a pattern in her
growth? As she ages, her horns are longer and more pronounced, and her lekku are significantly longer. WTF, did she get a cut?
At this stage of her life, she should look more like Shaak Ti, not 'Little Soka'.
Oh boy, lots to unpack. I loved the storyline of the episode and all that was revealed (TYTHON!!!!),
Yay Tython, boo stupid Jedi voodoo Force crap. NTM, how the hell does she even know of such things?
literally my only issue was Rosario's performance. And not that it was a bad performance, just that it didn't quite feel like Ahsoka. The dialogue was that of Ahsoka, but the movements, the speed, the facial expressions in battle, the fighting style, the fact that she had a hard time against The Magistrate, it just didn't work for me. She wasn't nearly as light on her feet as Ahsoka (which I understand, real world and animation can't always match), etc. It was literally just a ton of little things that make Ahsoka Ahoska that weren't quite right. Anytime we saw her from the back, it was perfect, just nothing else was quite right. Also her Montrals were too short. She also snapped at the child.
I both agree and disagree with some of this. A good actor/actress cannot trump bad direction and writing. Dawson doesn't have the background on the character unless she's secretly an uber-fan. Eckstien, however, I would have trusted to have that intimacy, and been able to feel out the quirks in the writing.
As far as speed and lightness of foot, let's see how middle-aged you stacks up against teenage you. But I agree, beskar pike or not, she should have taken the magistrate apart without effort. I get real tired of "normals" being a match for trained Force wielders, simply because they have a special weapon. I felt the same when Pre Viszla fought Obi Wan, and again Maul. Just because he is a skilled combatant with a lightsaber does NOT equate to being equal with a Jedi/Sith. Trained Force wielders have the advantage of being able to sense their environment as well as what is about to happen. A normal doesn't. They might be able to predict strategy, or even throw a trick or two, but ultimately they will lose in little time.
What bugged the crap out of me was how unmoving she was toward adhering to the Jedi way of "he's too old" or too attached. It's like "OMG! He has feelings and emotions and junk, and I just can't even." Her intuition should have been "I need to teach him before he breaks bad." I'm beyond sickened that NO ONE has addressed the elephant in the temple: the Jedi are responsible for 90% of the Sith/Dark Jedi we hear/read about. Instead of teaching how to deal with your emotions like a rational adult, they teach disregard and ignoration of emotion, like it is a symptom of a disease rather than a NATURAL part of living beings. Had the Jedi accepted emotion and attachment aren't sins, then Anakin would have never even considered Sidious' offer. He would've whoop an old man's ass right on the spot.
What bothered me even more about this adherence is that she was betrayed by the Jedi, and renounced them. It is even canon from SWR: "I am
no Jedi." Plus all of what we dealt with in SWR. Ezra was too old, ntm way too angry with the Empire to taught, according to Jedi standards. And Kanan had a frikkin kid with the woman he LOVES, plus was very attached to his crew.
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Also, did Ahsoka not know Yaddle? She was literally on the Jedi Council. Ahsoka would have at least know about her.
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Considering that she is not seen after TPM, it is quite possible that she passed offscreen, before the Clone Wars began. In which case Ahsoka, being a mere initiate, would probably not have had any dealings with her or in her areas of operation within the temple.
EXPLINATION OF HIS STUNTED GROWTH
When the hell did THIS happen? I was happy to finally get his name, but that was about the only thing that made sense about his back story. I won't deny that I probably need a reviewing. Then comes infinitely MORE questions. Mainly, if he was at the temple during the rise of the Empire, how did he survive Order 66?
I was just disappointed by the look of Ahsoka's montrals and lekkus ... I though that they are too small ... almost the same size when Ahsoka was a child. There is something strange to me on this point. For an adult Togruta, they should have been more long and thin .. like those they made for Orli Shoshan as Shaak Ti in Ep II.
I can agree they seemed short for her age...BUT as usual in Star Wars where there is not an in-universe explanation..there is a real world one. Probably some limitation with the prosthetics.
HA! If she had maintained short lekku and...."montrals" over her cartoon career, it would have been an easy explanation. Like some human females that remain......"petite" even into adulthood, or even motherhood for that matter, Togruta may "fill out" differently rom one another. I would have loved for this to be the explanation; add a little complexity to their particular xenobiology. But alas, it is another installment of IDIOTS ON PARADE.
If im mathing right, yes Ahsoka was accepted into the order 1 year before Anakin...BUT she was only 3 years old while Anakin was 9. A 3 year old and a 9 year old, of course, have different capabilities of retaining memories to adulthood. As well Padawans rarely saw all the members of the council other than Yoda who took more of a hands on interest than the others. Anakin being tested by the whole council was not a normal thing. Usually a Padawan wouldn't see the whole council until the day they were to be chosen as a padawan. So..since Anakin was such a special case he was privy to a lot the other Padawans were not. Since Yaddle pretty much stepped down right after TPM she was long gone by the time Ahsoka was ready to become a padawan.
I'm calling bullshell. How would Anakin have been qualified to teach when he is only 6 years older and -1 of seniority in the order? That's just stupid.
Maybe ... but I think that it can also be a choice considering what they did in Ep II ...
What happened in Ep2?
Come on guys have a little respect for those of us that have to get home after work to watch.
Usually Master Seblaise posts that he saw the episode and will wait to discuss when everyone else has had a chance to watch. That it my warning that going ant farther forward into the thread is a spoiler until after I watch the newest episode. Instead today scroll right into a photo spoiler with no warning what so ever. Not cool. Especially since that image was a moment I have been anticipating and waiting to see for the first time in the show and not online.
Yes I know this is a spoiler thread but up till now there have been heads up warning for each new episode and no one has posted photo spoilers at least not for the very first post about a new episode.
Hate to be the one to point this out, but no says you have to read this thread on Fridays. Do what I do and just avoid this thread until you've seen the episode. Sure, playing catch-up is bitch, but it's worth it.
True, but Ahsoka did manage to hold her own against Maul and Vader, which should be, in my opinion, some pretty top-tier feats. Did she regress a bit in mobility and agility? Perhaps, but I've seen people estimate she's in her mid-40s now, which is far from old given many skilled Jedi/Sith we've seen older than that. No idea about how much actual true combat experience against worthy opponents she's got recently though, so maybe there's a little rust to shake off as well? Sure, we don't know about the Magistrate's training, but I'd imagine there should be a MASSIVE power gap between her and Maul or Vader, so you'd think not being destroyed by the latter would mean the former would be really no challenge. Although a stomp of the Magistrate wouldn't have been quite as entertaining or cinematic, I think it they didn't want to low-ball Ahsoka, or really high-ball the Magistrate, maybe having there be a few guards shooting at her, or a few soldiers/guards joining in the fight to force Ahsoka to split her focus and attention to multiple targets and have to defend multiple opponents, drawing out the fight without making it seems like she was relatively even with one opponent, would have perhaps served the same purpose.
But still, I am very pleased with the episode. TONS of big things revealed, and the universe is expanding in future possibilities. I am happy with this episode. Very happy.
I might point out that the only reason she survived her encounter with Vader was due to Ezra tampering with time; she was pulled into the future. (Which still never explains how Vader escaped the Sith temple on Malacor V.) And for the most part, Maul ran in lieu of victory to avoid Sidious' forces and any chance of showing up on his old master's radar. Which then raises more questions about what was done in the final episodes of TCW?
As far as the magistrate fight, that is something that has disappointed me for years about the non-book SW for years: too much emphasis on action, even when it makes no sense. But I've already explained my views on this fight.
So the actress who plays the Magistrate is Diana Lee Inosanto, daughter of martial artist Dan Inosanto, who was Bruce Lee’s training parter. And she’s also Bruce Lee’s goddaughter, so I’m just making it my personal head-canon that she’s an incredible martial artist, even if they don’t explain it further.
She actually has more credits as a stunt woman.
But lets not forget Michael Biehn as the Gunslinger.
He looks pretty good considering how long it's been since I've seen him. Had to IMDB this ep. because I KNEW I knew his voice. Drives me nuts. And I wouldn't necessarily call him a "gunslinger". Captain maybe, but didn't really come across as much of a gunslinger.
Loved that last episode! Ashoka translated well into live action. The sabers looked great.
I thought the sabers looked far too long, especially for Jar'kai.
Really hyped to see how they handle both Thrawn and Tython
Personally I'm scared.
My only complaint would probably be Grogu. I just don’t think they should’ve namedropped the child at all. Makes me think of yo-ho Pirates. What with Grog being 80% of the name and all
I was actually happy to finally get it. Also, don't look at spelling, listen to pronunciation.
Now that I think about it, I'm not a fan of how they achieved this end of finally naming him. It made it seem like Jedi are all telepaths, which is false. Empaths maybe, but that is an entirely different skill set, as Mantis explained. Unless the kid is so desperate to communicate that he is broadcasting his feelings for anything to pick up. I do remember instances when individuals were pretty much open books to the Jedi, like young Anakin.
I'm thinking that Thrawn will be addressed in an Ahsoka spinoff and not here in Mando-land. I would think Ahsoka is really looking for Ezra Bridger.
Nah. He'll be along. I sense a power struggle between him and Gideon.
Side note: Where is Sabine?
She'll be along. You know she has to considering she's Mando. But who do we want to play her?
I hope they handle it in Mando. As for Sabine I would assume she’s ruling whatever remains of Mandalore
Edit: side though. OR Sabine may have been killed by Gideon, since he did lead the siege of Mandalore iirc
I thought
the Siege of Mandalore referred exclusively to the fight at the end of TCW. Or are you trying to refer to the "Great Purge"?
I guess that’s kinda my point. They shouldn’t have made his name such a mystery if they were just gonna go “oh it’s this” halfway into season 2
Really doesn't make a difference, he'll always be "Baby Yoda". Personally I would have preferred his name to have remained a mystery a little longer, at least until we were much closer to uncovering the whole mystery surrounding him.
I’m hoping we get Ezra Bridger as the Jedi that chooses to train Grogu. Especially if it leads up a rematch with Thrawn.
I hope not. We already have enough SWR reappearances. And I already gave my opinion on one show pulling its success from another's. That's why the ST failed so completely.
I agree that some of the actions moments with Ashoka didn’t match up to the cartoon but I kinda expected that when you translate from cartoon to live action. I think her look is good, but it’s gonna take some getting used of the voice.
Screw that. I like Rosario's voice so much more. But I'm biased to like altos far more than sopranos.
There ya go.....real world reasons
WHATEVER! Just CGI them for the action sequences. They have no qualms about using CG when Baby Yoda's movements exceed the limits of the puppet. In this way they can animate them around the movements of the actress. But this is just a cop out of a lazy production.
If they bring Luke in his face will either not be shown, shown on shadow or if they can spend the dough a deepfake
I would hope that Luke would only be a final season thing.