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« Reply #90 on: December 21, 2016, 07:31:40 PM »

I guess that makes sense. But what on earth is supposed to keep him there? Roll Eyes

It was all fun, fun, fun, till Palpy took the speeder away.  Wink
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« Reply #91 on: December 21, 2016, 07:35:38 PM »

It was all fun, fun, fun, till Palpy took the speeder away.  Wink

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« Reply #92 on: December 21, 2016, 07:46:30 PM »

It's his castle, with relatively few other people present, where he can do as the apprentice in a duo of Sith Lords does.  Plot to take over as master.

Of course he does have the Emperor's agents watching him (and it won't be just the Royal Guards we saw), but he's got far fewer prying eyes around him than he would have on his star destroyer.
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« Reply #93 on: December 21, 2016, 07:52:49 PM »

I guess that makes sense. But what on earth is supposed to keep him there? Roll Eyes

His own desire to self-flagellate. It is where he pretty much killed Padme.
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« Reply #94 on: December 21, 2016, 08:13:03 PM »

I thought a few things about Chateau de Vader. I immediatley figured it was on Mustafar, because that is one of, if not the only lava plabet we have. At first I thought what someone else said earlier, that Palpatine made him stay on Mustafar as a painful reminder of his failure. Then I thought that maybe Vader chose to stay there.

It looked like the lava was the fuel for his castle. It flowed in, and it flowed out differently. Maybe he was trying to show his command and mastery over what put him in the suit. Then I thought a little bit more.

The structure resembled the spire on the temple at Jedha.



Maybe he copied the design to remind him of who he was, because we all know there was still good in him.

My conclusion is that it represents the entirety of his character as Anakin the Jedi and Vader the Sith, and it was his choice to stay there. That's just me, though.
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« Reply #95 on: December 21, 2016, 09:41:20 PM »

Anybody else notice the lack of a reactor bubble on that ISD? Unless they weren't as pronounced in ANH as in ESB & ROTJ.


And when are we gonna get this?

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« Reply #96 on: December 21, 2016, 10:01:20 PM »

Anybody else notice the lack of a reactor bubble on that ISD? Unless they weren't as pronounced in ANH as in ESB & ROTJ.


And when are we gonna get this?












Looks about right to me.
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« Reply #97 on: December 21, 2016, 10:21:09 PM »



It just don't look right. Like the ship is tilted.
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« Reply #98 on: December 21, 2016, 10:29:21 PM »

Lastly - I didn't notice any region or planetary designation for Vaders layer - does anyone know if it was on Mustafar?


Could Vader's Lair be Bast Castle on the planet Vjun from the EU/Legends (and Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy) and Disney just "Borrowed" the idea?

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« Reply #99 on: December 21, 2016, 10:34:36 PM »

Bast Castle was the old version and they probably would have kept it save that they realized they already has a perfectly good lava planet with significance to Lord Vader in the canon already...so they dropped him on Mustafar.   Could have been an old Sith temple for all we know.

As for the ISD over the city, its the lighting that makes the dome seem off.  The shadows are long like the sun is rising or setting.  Where the rest of the shots they are trying to keep the model nicely lit.
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« Reply #100 on: December 22, 2016, 05:02:08 PM »

I guess that makes sense. But what on earth is supposed to keep him there? Roll Eyes

I highly recommend the Darth Vader comics Logos - this sort of thing happens between Vader and the Emperor near constantly.
Emperor constantly sends potential replacements to keep Vader on edge/try to kill him, Vader constantly calculating when he can move freely or against Palpy, Emperor rewarding Vader when he manages to disobey him successfully.
Vader thinks he can beat Palpy - but he does fear him.
Them Sith and their sithy sithness.

Other note - Saw the movie.
Thought the beginning was jarring and wasn't into the music.
Didn't find myself caring too much for the characters (except k2so) until real late in the movie.
Tarkin's face could have been fine if they didn't hold on it so long all the damn time and obscured it a little. Thought Leia's face looked great.
Thought the third act redeemed most of the complaints I had - it was around then that I quit noticing the music pulling me out of the movie too.

Overall I think it's a solid addition.
I was really happy to see the rebellion portrayed in many shades of gray instead of good guys are good guys bad guys are bad guys.
Vader is a force to be reckoned with and it was nice to see it on the big screen instead of just in Rebels or the comics.
 
I'd probably rank it 4th or 5th overall as far as movies go.

I'd like to see it again so I can look at it a bit more critically.
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« Reply #101 on: December 22, 2016, 05:05:30 PM »

Doing a double feature today. Going to go see this again, and then after, go see Assassin's Creed.

This is our "Easter Egg" viewing.  Cheesy
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« Reply #102 on: December 22, 2016, 05:26:09 PM »

Mostly agreed with Drahcir's comments- including the Vader comic.

That is a must-read.

My biggest issue aside from things he covered was the Rebellion initially calling it a day when they got the 411 on the Death Star.

That just felt like the absolute worst kind of completely forced, manufactured Drama since we already know from history (and the Rogue One advertisements) the Rebels were there to get the transmission.

I thought the Cast, Cinematography & Action were all superb.

Chirrut was definitely a highlight for me; always enjoy seeing the concept of The Force and people's belief / use of (if only to a very small degree) expanded beyond Jedi.

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« Reply #103 on: December 22, 2016, 07:12:06 PM »

I highly recommend the Darth Vader comics Logos - this sort of thing happens between Vader and the Emperor near constantly.
Emperor constantly sends potential replacements to keep Vader on edge/try to kill him, Vader constantly calculating when he can move freely or against Palpy, Emperor rewarding Vader when he manages to disobey him successfully.
Vader thinks he can beat Palpy - but he does fear him.
Them Sith and their sithy sithness.

Other note - Saw the movie.
Thought the beginning was jarring and wasn't into the music.
Didn't find myself caring too much for the characters (except k2so) until real late in the movie.
Tarkin's face could have been fine if they didn't hold on it so long all the damn time and obscured it a little. Thought Leia's face looked great.
Thought the third act redeemed most of the complaints I had - it was around then that I quit noticing the music pulling me out of the movie too.

Overall I think it's a solid addition.
I was really happy to see the rebellion portrayed in many shades of gray instead of good guys are good guys bad guys are bad guys.
Vader is a force to be reckoned with and it was nice to see it on the big screen instead of just in Rebels or the comics.
 
I'd probably rank it 4th or 5th overall as far as movies go.

I'd like to see it again so I can look at it a bit more critically.
May have to give it a look. As long as it doesn't get weird on me.

Felt the same about the characters. I initially thought I was going to hate Chirrut & Baze, but as far as the "meat sacks" went, those 2 were my faves.

Amen to the 3rd act.

Going to see again Saturday afternoon.


I think whoever came up with the droid's name was a chemistry major and likes potassium sulfate: K2SO(4).
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« Reply #104 on: December 22, 2016, 07:28:42 PM »

May have to give it a look. As long as it doesn't get weird on me.

Felt the same about the characters. I initially thought I was going to hate Chirrut & Baze, but as far as the "meat sacks" went, those 2 were my faves.

Amen to the 3rd act.

Going to see again Saturday afternoon.


I think whoever came up with the droid's name was a chemistry major and likes potassium sulfate: K2SO(4).

That or they love cheese...

K2-SO --> KK-SO --> Kays-So --> Queso


Maybe it's me that loves cheese...
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