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« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2015, 09:29:23 AM » |
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also remember she is losing right up until kylo says about teaching her the ways of the dark side, rey seems to be like "oh yeah the force I can use that" and then opens her mind to the force, I suppose it starts to guide her hand in a similar way to how the force lets jedi anticipate the course of blaster bolts for deflecting them
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« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2015, 07:22:05 PM » |
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I totally agree that they are different weapons and fighting styles, however when your life is on the line, you will fight to live, which is why she ultimately prevailed. Kylo got lazy and disregarded her and she knew that if she didn't fight her hardest she was dead.
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« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2015, 07:27:05 PM » |
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He'd also been shot by this point too.
And his dominant shoulder had been slashed by Finn. I thought they did a great job of making it plausible that Rey could best him. There were a lot of outside influences and factors that affected the outcome, and I'm sure in Episode VIII we will learn more of what made Rey such a formidable opponent despite the experience difference between the two. |
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« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2015, 06:26:48 AM » |
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I'm not so sure she was a complete noob. I have a theory that I won't get into here, but I think she did have some basic, rudimentary lightsaber and Force knowledge. It had been suppressed and reactivated through her interactions with Ren and the saber. That is what allowed her to fight with at least some technique and skill.
Hmmm...if you're thinking what I'm thinking, I'd say that's a possibility. To the point about her weapon of choice versus the saber, do you think it might make her a saberstaff natural if/when she starts training in earnest? |
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« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2015, 01:27:28 PM » |
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Hmmm...if you're thinking what I'm thinking, I'd say that's a possibility.
To the point about her weapon of choice versus the saber, do you think it might make her a saberstaff natural if/when she starts training in earnest?
"Are you thinking what I'm thinking, Pinky?" "Yes, Brain, but if we change all of the P's to O's, my name would be Oinky." Sorry, but I couldn't resist a good Pinky and the Brain quote. I think a saber staff would be more natural to her, because she seemed very comfortable with it, but she also seemed pretty natural with the saber, too. I think she'll end up using the saber, primarily, but she'll have her staff as a backup. Kind of like how Luke didn't hesitate to use a blaster. He grew up with one and knew how to use it, but the saber ultimately be came his weapon of choice. I think fans have too strong a connection with that saber (and Luke's green one) to just let them go away. And I think this trilogy is definitely being made with the fans in mind more so than the prequels. So, I think they'll both stay. |
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« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2015, 03:22:44 AM » |
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I don't think she was using Makashi. I think she was following the Neo-Zorro methodology.
Original Zorro - "Do you even know how to use a sword?"
Nu-Zorro - "Of course... The pointy end goes into the other man..."
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« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2015, 05:00:46 AM » |
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Hmmm...if you're thinking what I'm thinking, I'd say that's a possibility.
To the point about her weapon of choice versus the saber, do you think it might make her a saberstaff natural if/when she starts training in earnest?
WHOA!! I hadn't even thought of this. That would make Rey even more awesome. |
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« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2015, 05:04:09 AM » |
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Hmmm...if you're thinking what I'm thinking, I'd say that's a possibility.
To the point about her weapon of choice versus the saber, do you think it might make her a saberstaff natural if/when she starts training in earnest?
Don't forget something along the lines if the Saber Yari; that is even closer to mirroring her staff. |
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« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2015, 05:11:26 AM » |
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So what do you think her chosen blade color would be?
Guardian Blue? Sentinel Yellow? Consular Green? Viridian? Adegan Silver? DVA?
Personally, I think the Adegan Silver would suit her best.
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« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2015, 05:21:39 AM » |
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One can always hope for Sentinel Yellow, but since Adegan Silver--or rather, white--is canon now, I'm with you Jev.
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« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2015, 05:30:37 AM » |
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One can always hope for Sentinel Yellow, but since Adegan Silver--or rather, white--is canon now, I'm with you Jev.
IDK, I can see Rey with Consular Green. |
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« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2015, 04:08:33 PM » |
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One can always hope for Sentinel Yellow, but since Adegan Silver--or rather, white--is canon now, I'm with you Jev.
She's gonna have red, just cuz it's flashy and awesome.  As to the title of this thread, I agree with TJ. Much of the ability she showed in this movie was more the Force guiding her actions, based off her will. 10-1 says she was just using Shii Cho. Hmmm...if you're thinking what I'm thinking, I'd say that's a possibility.
To the point about her weapon of choice versus the saber, do you think it might make her a saberstaff natural if/when she starts training in earnest?
I had this thought as well. Considering that she is already comfortable, NTM quite capable, using a staff, I think it would only be appropriate that they continue with that. Give her a saber staff. Also, I don't know about the rest of you, but I feel partially slighted that the only saber staff we got to see on the big screen lasted maybe 10 min, then we never saw it again.  |
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« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2015, 06:52:44 PM » |
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She's gonna have red, just cuz it's flashy and awesome. As to the title of this thread, I agree with TJ. Much of the ability she showed in this movie was more the Force guiding her actions, based off her will. 10-1 says she was just using Shii Cho. I had this thought as well. Considering that she is already comfortable, NTM quite capable, using a staff, I think it would only be appropriate that they continue with that. Give her a saber staff. Also, I don't know about the rest of you, but I feel partially slighted that the only saber staff we got to see on the big screen lasted maybe 10 min, then we never saw it again. True, when she fought she did use wide sweeping attacks -- which are mainly used in Shii Cho. |
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« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2016, 01:21:11 AM » |
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This thought dawned on me today...
There has been a lot of conversation about Rey's fighting ability and how she could do what she did with no training. Remember what happened when she found BB-8? She was able to fend off a mounted creature using only a knife. But, they clearly knew each other, based on her dialogue, and he wanted nothing to do with her. Perhaps her fighting abilities were a bit more well known that we think. Kind of like how Obi-Wan scares off the Tusken Raiders by just showing up. They knew of what Anakin did to one of their entire tribes, and they didn't want to mess with him. The jedi's reputation preceded Obi-Wan, just like Rey's reputation preceded her.
Just a thought.
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« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2016, 04:49:55 AM » |
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It was definitely channeling the ESB fight with Luke vs. Vader, but in this case the villain wasn't necessarily a master. I wouldn't attach any Forms to this fight, since it's pretty clear that Kylo Ren had minimal training with a lightsaber. He had a bit of experience and was fighting more on raw instinct, which was Rey's approach as well (minus the rage).
Oh, and I definitely hope she keeps the graflex... it would be awesome.
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