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Author Topic: So..... Why DID Vader kill the Emperor???  (Read 17848 times)
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« Reply #60 on: August 21, 2019, 02:31:06 AM »

Sidious is actually the only play they have. They need a villain that is already established that can be destroyed (again) within the span of a single film, since the idiots wasted 2 movies building up Snoke only to have him go out like a bitch, with no explanations of his plans, motives, or origin.

I couldn't really get on board with Snoke. He sort of struck me as diet Palpatine so much that I really didn't mind him getting punked. Maybe my feeling on that would have been different if like you say they ever explained what his actual deal was supposed to be. Now there's a hole where it seems like a villain for the story should be.


But I don't know that I want The Emperor's death in ROTJ retconned to fill it.
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« Reply #61 on: August 21, 2019, 02:57:16 AM »

I couldn't really get on board with Snoke. He sort of struck me as diet Palpatine so much that I really didn't mind him getting punked. Maybe my feeling on that would have been different if like you say they ever explained what his actual deal was supposed to be. Now there's a hole where it seems like a villain for the story should be.


But I don't know that I want The Emperor's death in ROTJ retconned to fill it.

I don't think Palpy is Alive...  Either he is a Specter, a holocron or a recording of some kind..like the Messengers that were sent to Start Operation Cinder after his death.
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« Reply #62 on: August 21, 2019, 03:01:20 PM »



WOW! Didn't see that one coming. ALL THE POINTS!

I couldn't really get on board with Snoke. He sort of struck me as diet Palpatine so much that I really didn't mind him getting punked. Maybe my feeling on that would have been different if like you say they ever explained what his actual deal was supposed to be. Now there's a hole where it seems like a villain for the story should be.

The entire canon has rubbed me as "diet" with tons of artificial fillers. The bad guys are just big meanies, the heroes are nauseating clichés, and rest is just mind numbing throwbacks and recycled designs. You ever get the thought they were hoping we wouldn't notice that they really had nothing but a lame social agenda? Roll Eyes

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But I don't know that I want The Emperor's death in ROTJ retconned to fill it.

Think of it along the lines of Sauron's "death". Everyone thought he was gone for thousands of years, but he was really biding his time and gathering his forces. I can totally see Sidious being patient enough (#sithlife) to do this same thing. Snoke may have been significant opposition enough to prevent his return.
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« Reply #63 on: August 21, 2019, 04:39:43 PM »

WOW! Didn't see that one coming. ALL THE POINTS!
The entire canon has rubbed me as "diet" with tons of artificial fillers. The bad guys are just big meanies, the heroes are nauseating clichés, and rest is just mind numbing throwbacks and recycled designs. You ever get the thought they were hoping we wouldn't notice that they really had nothing but a lame social agenda? Roll Eyes
Think of it along the lines of Sauron's "death". Everyone thought he was gone for thousands of years, but he was really biding his time and gathering his forces. I can totally see Sidious being patient enough (#sithlife) to do this same thing. Snoke may have been significant opposition enough to prevent his return.

Exactly....  Palpy Is the epitome of Sith...he plays the long game.  He even had a contingency just in case he was taken out.
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« Reply #64 on: August 21, 2019, 04:50:24 PM »

Exactly....  Palpy Is the epitome of Sith...he plays the long game.  He even had a contingency just in case he was taken out.
Which, again, was ruined by the wicked witch and her army of flying monkeys.
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« Reply #65 on: August 21, 2019, 06:59:16 PM »

Which, again, was ruined by the wicked witch and her army of flying monkeys.

I didn't mind Operation Cinder... I honestly didn't care for the whole Clone Emperors storyline.
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« Reply #66 on: August 21, 2019, 09:05:00 PM »

I didn't mind Operation Cinder... I honestly didn't care for the whole Clone Emperors storyline.
I was more interested in the activation of the Emperor's Hand.
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« Reply #67 on: August 21, 2019, 09:36:20 PM »

I was more interested in the activation of the Emperor's Hand.

yea  that ain't gonna happen...an interesting character.... Disney wouldn't allow it.   Unless they do and screw it up
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« Reply #68 on: August 22, 2019, 06:32:24 PM »

yea  that ain't gonna happen...an interesting character.... Disney wouldn't allow it.   Unless they do and screw it up
Why would't they allow it?

Also, it's not like they can do much worse. But I won't encourage them to try.
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« Reply #69 on: August 22, 2019, 09:31:09 PM »

Exactly....  Palpy Is the epitome of Sith...he plays the long game.  He even had a contingency just in case he was taken out.

Gotta ask. Does anyone else read that word as EP-EE-TOME rather than EP-IH-TUM-EE? I do every single time.
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« Reply #70 on: August 22, 2019, 09:51:31 PM »

Why would't they allow it?



Being Facetious.... because it seems like they made every decision  to make these characters less interesting...
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« Reply #71 on: August 23, 2019, 12:53:12 PM »

Being Facetious.... because it seems like they made every decision  to make these characters less interesting...
Exactly what I've been screaming. All the main characters just seem to be empty archetypes.
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