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Author Topic: Avengers: Infinity War Discussion *spoilers*  (Read 19045 times)
Darth Tepes
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« on: April 30, 2018, 10:04:19 PM »

Just a place to discuss what you liked or disliked about the film, being free to mention spoilers.  Personally, I liked the film. A lot.  But something is gnawing at me about it.  But I cant place it.  There was a rather annoying lady behind me added to an ear infection though.  I may have to see it again to get a full feel of it.  The 2 things I can absolutely say I loved was the Thor scenes, especially his arrival in Wakanda, and of course Thanos.  Brolin and the Russo's did an awesome job bringing The Mad Titan to life. 
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2018, 08:04:03 AM »

 So after some reading up on the events in this movie from the point of the comics and some different theories, I can see how the characters that turned to dust in the end may be coming back. I still have a problem with the fact that I even needed to look into this, since I have never needed to do that with any other Marvel movie. I still found the action fairly boring. I know this was a much more serious movie than any other MCU outings, but I didn't think the humor was nearly as good as a it has been in the past. Knowing that so far most people seem to like Infinity War, I now feel like I have a better understanding of what people think about me for liking TFA and TLJ, probably about the same thing as I think about people who like this movie. LOL  Wink
To be sure, I respect peoples opinions for disliking TFA and TLJ as much as I do for liking this movie. I will always be down to have a respectful discussion on differences of opinion regarding such things. I won't get into heated debates about them though. So if you enjoyed it, that's awesome. I won't judge people for that. I would still like to hear from people that know the comics better that could tell me what I should be expecting in the next films. And I still have high hopes for Deadpool 2, so I'm not abandoning hope for Marvel or Disney. That was just a knee jerk reaction.
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2018, 10:56:34 AM »

The ending makes it obvious that most of it is going to be reversed. The who reason to bring in new Avengers like Black Panther, Dr. Strange and Spider-Man is to replace the older ones that we no will not be moving much more further. So to kill them off knowing that and that sequels of their movies are already green light gives it away.

Here is my thing with it. Many people complained about the casino part in TLJ, how it was a total waste of time because they didn't accomplish anything. Well the was pretty much this whole movie. Absolutely nothing was accomplished. I think they could have made this movie into 1/3 or half the movie and moved on to what happens next. Or even change up the end, kill a couple older Avengers and keep us guessing.

As far as the next Avengers movie, well Dr. Strange knows how it will end. He only saw one outcome where they win, he gave up the stone, and told Tony he had to. So of course that was the one way it had to go.

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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2018, 05:16:37 PM »

The ending makes it obvious that most of it is going to be reversed. The who reason to bring in new Avengers like Black Panther, Dr. Strange and Spider-Man is to replace the older ones that we no will not be moving much more further. So to kill them off knowing that and that sequels of their movies are already green light gives it away.

Here is my thing with it. Many people complained about the casino part in TLJ, how it was a total waste of time because they didn't accomplish anything. Well the was pretty much this whole movie. Absolutely nothing was accomplished. I think they could have made this movie into 1/3 or half the movie and moved on to what happens next. Or even change up the end, kill a couple older Avengers and keep us guessing.

As far as the next Avengers movie, well Dr. Strange knows how it will end. He only saw one outcome where they win, he gave up the stone, and told Tony he had to. So of course that was the one way it had to go.

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I didn't stick around for the after credit scene. Is that where it was made obvious what was going to be reversed? I would love to hear a break down of it. Great point about the casino part in TLJ  tx_tuff. I couldn't articulate that yesterday, but that is exactly how I felt about the movie. Absolutely nothing was accomplished (except for Thanos) In my humble opinion. And thanks for starting this thread Darth Tepes. 
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2018, 05:57:24 PM »

To be sure, I respect peoples opinions for disliking TFA and TLJ as much as I do for liking this movie. I will always be down to have a respectful discussion on differences of opinion regarding such things. I won't get into heated debates about them though. So if you enjoyed it, that's awesome. I won't judge people for that. I would still like to hear from people that know the comics better that could tell me what I should be expecting in the next films. And I still have high hopes for Deadpool 2, so I'm not abandoning hope for Marvel or Disney. That was just a knee jerk reaction.
All movies are subjective. There is no "right" or "wrong" opinion.

However, you're wrong in this instance!  Cheesy (only joking).

As for the next movie, I wouldn't put too much stock in what happens in the comics. The MCU is not a straight adaptation of the comics. It is influenced by the comics and some storylines have been used very loosely. For instance, in the Infinity Gauntlet comic run (on which Infinity War is kind of based), it's Silver Surfer who crashes into Dr Strange's place, not Hulk. Adam Warlock gets the team together to help defeat Thanos, but Adam Warlock (confirmed by James Gunn) won't appear until GotG 3.

Personally, I think eventually they get the gauntlet from Thanos (I think Nebula ultimately did that in the comics) and one of our heroes sacrifices themself using it to undo the snap.

Anyone who died before the snap (Loki, Heimdall, etc) are dead. Gamora may return as her essence could be trapped in the soul stone. Vision could return as I think Shuri may have copied/downloaded his programme and they put it into a new body.

The quantum realm, which is going to be introduced in Antman & the Wasp, will play some part in the story too (maybe the gauntlet is taken and left there for safety).

Also, Dr Strange may have placed a marker on the time stone to help the heroes undo everything.

I didn't stick around for the after credit scene. Is that where it was made obvious what was going to be reversed?

As for the post credit scene. check out this quick video.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk5NP09Pym0" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk5NP09Pym0</a>



Finally....
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eITJLgd7el8" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eITJLgd7el8</a>
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2018, 07:26:37 PM »

The ending makes it obvious that most of it is going to be reversed. The who reason to bring in new Avengers like Black Panther, Dr. Strange and Spider-Man is to replace the older ones that we no will not be moving much more further. So to kill them off knowing that and that sequels of their movies are already green light gives it away.

Here is my thing with it. Many people complained about the casino part in TLJ, how it was a total waste of time because they didn't accomplish anything. Well the was pretty much this whole movie. Absolutely nothing was accomplished. I think they could have made this movie into 1/3 or half the movie and moved on to what happens next. Or even change up the end, kill a couple older Avengers and keep us guessing.

As far as the next Avengers movie, well Dr. Strange knows how it will end. He only saw one outcome where they win, he gave up the stone, and told Tony he had to. So of course that was the one way it had to go.

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Nothing was accomplished..by the heroes. Because this wasn't their film.  This was meant to be Thanos' film...and he accomplished plenty. I've even heard from people that like TLJ ,that they hate the casino scene.
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2018, 07:53:02 PM »

Nothing was accomplished..by the heroes. Because this wasn't their film.  This was meant to be Thanos' film...and he accomplished plenty. I've even heard from people that like TLJ ,that they hate the casino scene.

I agree. Thanos seemed to accomplish plenty. I didn't think about it as being Thanos' film. And although I didn't mind TLJ's casino scene, I can understand why people didn't like it. I will definitely see this again with a more open mind when it's out on disc.

Thanks again for every ones willingness to have a discussion about this rather than bashing me or other people. This is what this forum is all about to me. I'm even starting to slightly change my opinion of the film because of it.   
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2018, 08:58:23 PM »

I think calling it a Thanos film is a cop out. So Marvel made 10 years of Super Hero films just to make a Thanos film?

But I will agree he did accomplish a lot. You could even think of it as a political film, he is trying to save the universe after all. I believe China is already do this with his many kids each family is allowed.

By me saying you know it will be reversed is because of all the new Avengers they killed off, since already have upcoming films green lite, so they will be back.

I think Thanos himself might just turn the clock back. But I haven't read any of the comics this story line is based on.

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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2018, 09:46:13 PM »

I think calling it a Thanos film is a cop out. So Marvel made 10 years of Super Hero films just to make a Thanos film?

But I will agree he did accomplish a lot. You could even think of it as a political film, he is trying to save the universe after all. I believe China is already do this with his many kids each family is allowed.

By me saying you know it will be reversed is because of all the new Avengers they killed off, since already have upcoming films green lite, so they will be back.

I think Thanos himself might just turn the clock back. But I haven't read any of the comics this story line is based on.

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It being Thanos' film their plan from the beginning.  Of course it will be reversed..after all "no one in comics stays dead except Uncle Ben" is pretty much a unwritten rule.  As for the comics its based off of, you'll get no help there since there are characters not involved that were instrumental (Adam Warlock) in Thanos defeat as well as Thanos' motivation being much different.  In the comic Thanos is in love with the physical embodiment of Death (Mistress Death) and to impress her he planned to kill half of the galaxy.  Fun Fact: Deadpool is also in love with Mistress Death and he and Thanos often quibble over it.
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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2018, 10:01:11 PM »

Loved it... Going to watch at the cinema at least once more!

Not worried about the shift from cannon... If they didn't we would already know what was going to happen!
My only minor complaint about the MCU is Hank Pam's influence or lack of it I should say. Maybe more of him to come in phase 4??? Adam Warlock will figure too I guess, if that's who they hinted at, at the end of Guardians 2.
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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2018, 10:06:28 PM »

Loved it... Going to watch at the cinema at least once more!

Not worried about the shift from cannon... If they didn't we would already know what was going to happen!
My only minor complaint about the MCU is Hank Pam's influence or lack of it I should say. Maybe more of him to come in phase 4??? Adam Warlock will figure too I guess, if that's who they hinted at, at the end of Guardians 2.

They decided to skip over Hank Pym I'm sure because of the whole spouse abuse thing from the comics
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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2018, 10:15:20 PM »

They decided to skip over Hank Pym I'm sure because of the whole spouse abuse thing from the comics


The whole abuse claim is a bit thin, but I hear ya dude 😊
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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2018, 11:01:40 AM »

Have a getting Hank Pym will be more prominent in the next Avengers, or at least his tech.

Yeah I have read a few Deadpool comics with Death in them.

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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2018, 11:03:05 AM »

By the way my favorite part of the movie was Spider-Man and the Iron Spider suit which I didn't think I wound like. And to me that was the only sad part of the movie when he turned to dust.

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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2018, 06:17:16 AM »

I didn't get to watch the ending scenes (we had to leave before it got to them), but I did finish the movie. And while I am confused (not having read this Infinity Gauntlet arc), I do think everything will end up working out. We only have two movies to go in order to resolve what is happening before the next Avengers movie, so we will see how it works. One thing I do hope happens is that they at the very least kill one person in AoS. If they don't. . . Well, lets just say I won't be happy. It was sad to see Peter die, but because he already has a sequel to Homecoming planned, I know that he will somehow make it back alive.


EDIT: Also, where are Valkyrie and Sif?
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